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  1. Please use your own scale on me, too. Just because I don't post thousands of posts in Affinity forum, doesn't tell you anything about my league - this is your prejudice, nothing else. How do you dare and estimate who's above whose league? That's a bit pointless as you don't me, don't you agree? Instead of further personal attacks: how about making a list of DAMs which are coming close to what Aperture was? I agree on "not needing another picture browser", but looking afterwards at firstdefence's list of hard- and software, I haven't seen no single DAM and he's talking as if tons of others available - without naming a few to look into. Rather poor statement... He also said "it's no big deal to use one of those instead, nobody is going to die because of it, people really need to get a handle on this and check themselves..." and this I see as an ignorant and arrogant comment, so don't wonder about my reaction. So far I have no reason to believe any of you two high league guys really works with a DAM. But it's far easier to post a comment like his or yours, of course. And in case no one of you adds some useful information about alternative DAMs, I prefer not to reply any more here. Oh, an btw. have you also seen how old this thread is and how simply nothing happened in terms of DAM ever since? Not even a simple picture browser for AP? AP is cool, but in terms of picture organisation an app abandoned by Apple 4 years ago still sets the standards. Cool down, @Ron P.
  2. @firstdefence, don't feel offended. Picture browsers are also kind of DAM, but what I miss is another combination of RAW-developer and sophisticated picture management. And that goes way beyond of only keywording, no matter how fast it is.
  3. Really? Maybe you have rather low standards about Digital Asset Management but so far I haven't seen the combination of a good RAW developer plus DAM and I guess you never learnt nor used Aperture, so you still think a DAM is a kind of a Windows explorer with keywords...
  4. There might have been "plans" of Affinity to enter DAM business. But I gave up hope on it after they announced to also enter the Windows and the tablet scene. Windows and MacOS is also on the list of the usual suspects like Lightroom and Capture One, so whatever Affinity would come up with, it would be the same low usability standard as the others already offer. Just look how poor their "intelligent folders" or "smart albums" work, not even a single button to send a developed RAW as JPG in a mail. Aperture is (still, as MacOS Catalina also won't work with Capture One) deeply integrated in MacOS, uses the same GUI concept as other Mac desktop apps - it is impossible to make a DAM working on multiple OS like Aperture is working on one only. It was a clever move by Affinity, to develop their Photo and Designer app first for the Mac users, make us very happy and then go into Windows business: more turnaround and more word-to-word PR as windows-users tend to ask people "who do something professional with photos and graphics" if they know a cheaper alternative to Adobe PS and AI. Yes, we Mac users helped them to make much more money and therefore it IS disappointing for the few of us who still miss Aperture. I still find old pictures much faster in Aperture than in C1 (if I find them there at all, because as DAM it supersucks). I am disappointed by Affinity and feel betrayed, as the DAM was announced to be in the making. But compared to how disappointed I was by Apple to give up Aperture, it's like one tear for Affinity and a bucket for Aperture! I can't blame Affinity to go on a broader set of platforms, as I experienced how rapidly, brutally and all of a sudden Apple can change their mind. Especially since this bloody clerk does everything making more money and nothing visionary at all. But going for more platforms means developing at the lowest common function standards. Therefore it is not certain for me, if I'd buy into a new sort or kind of Photomechanic. Reorganinizing libraries which grew over the years to some ten thousands of files is not done in a day. I've experienced this once and I can't imagine how the little company Affinity would give me the security of being safe and reliable for the next ten years.
  5. I agree. On the other side: 2-3 years ago, when Affinity Photo came out, I gave the develop persona of Affinity a try. And another one. And then went back to Capture One. That has a (rather basic and far away of Aperture's comfort) image management part plus a way better raw developer. Affinity Photo is still nice to work with the results, but as a standard raw developer too much is missing or gave me really bad results. I don't believe any longer in a well working DAM from Affinity as they opened up lots of new projects which will constantly keep resources busy. As I see it, they took away their own chance to do this because in opening up to Windows is more money waiting for them. And it's also important to get the publisher done - and well done, otherwise Adobe's InDesign will always be the easier way: Already existing, part of the package and well integrated with lots of more functions than Affinity will have from start.
  6. Yes, I full heartedly agree. Aperture is the scale others have to reach - none out there is as clear and well thought as Aperture was. That was the thing we're creating workarounds for - we can go different paths, but we only can hit a center spot with something like Aperture. I lost hope what i had for Affinity DAM - these guys can't do it. I see their RAW approach and I'm sorry to say - it's missed by that much.
  7. I tried DNG in the early days, 10 years ago or so, Pentax allowed it's cameras to save either DNG or native Pentax RAW. These days Sigma with their simply poorly supported Foveon RAWs goes the same road. That way to me is no alternative. There's a very well written article on Photographylife about the downsides and lack of support of DNG. Yes, storage is cheap - but do we like or need to work as DJs and handle all the different drives, host our RAWs in clouds or home servers? With D810 and more so D850 I'm happy to trash the garbage out of my files. But I don't like top see my storage needs growing and growing... As usual in Adobe land, everything what Adobe does blows up the consumed disk space. The Sigma DNGs are for whatever reason not as good as their native RAW - of course, the camera might save it as TIF and wraps the DNG parcel around. Double file size... No way. Media Pro I tried but I see no reason to throw another 200 bucks at Phase One - Media Pro does offer network capabilities, but as a catalogue software, too much functions of Aperture are not there or poorly done. Into Capture One I also could import the JPG and RAW as couples and select / delete both filetypes. No offense GFS or Fixx, if your workaround works for you - I'm glad for you. But we're working around and around and around and no one gets the real thing flying.
  8. Well, I agree as far as I think we don't need another RAW converter - we need the catalogue part of it. Putting this two together, was Apple's masterpiece in terms of photo-software. Obviously, it's too hard for a small manufacturer to reach that standard. With the last Capture One version offering layers, I don't need much support of Affinity for my pictures. For focus-stacks, repairing flares or unwanted parts I still start AP, but else...
  9. No, you could not, but nearly. Whenever you placed a "RAW" from Aperture into a layout, it was it's JPG preview. That was the way some photobook printer software also worked. And using less than HQ previews would eventually lead to poor looking photobooks It has become very quiet around Affinity. They gave up their formerly promised DAM and focus on publisher - I guess, it's also a problem of manpower. At the office I tried to replace Illustrator and Photoshop, but unfortunately these apps have some functions which I need for my work and Affinity falls very short with dealing with technical drawings, even shorter than Illustrator already does.
  10. Again ¼ year passed by... it appears to be a giant task. These days MacPhun became luminar but just between us: DAM-wise a hell of space for improvements
  11. I haven't tried any Corel app on my Mac or on a Windows. In the early days of my PC user career, Corel managed to fail in practically everything: Their vector drawings were a mess of weird structures and their pixel files full of bad surprises. That's what I remember and what started some kind of bias against that company. Later I read a couple of "reports" about newer Corel software. In the same computer magazine which waxed poetry about Affinity, Corel always got results like "nice features, but not much work done to complete them". I still wait (but not very actively) if someone comes round the corner and yells "hey, I never thought Corel would ever made a cool software like this". I just thing, if they did something really great, we would have heard. When I tried other apps, I got bored after a while because one nice or at least well done feature stood against 3-5 quirks, lousy interfaces, shortcomings in some sections I use to need and all of them. In this thread, MEB claimed that Affinity announced plans for a DAM software in October 2016. 10 months later we are still only reading how cool Affinity on Windows or iPad Pro is, but we're not seeing even a beta of a DAM. Last update of and to AP 1.5.2 was in March, ever since announcements about new features... So, R C-R, you're still saying these big two new branches don't slow them down? To be fair: I waited longer than a year to get support for compressed Fuji RAW files of the X-T2 by Capture One...
  12. Well, LilleG, let's agree we have different ideas of "excellent DAM". I just downloaded Media Pro Second Edition 2.2.0 or something like that. The best, I guess, is the multi user licence for a network. But otherwise... it still suggests to import iPhoto library. Which disappeared the same year Apple buried Aperture... I guess it's a pretty cool tool to apply keywords and use hierarchies of keywords, but else... it's amazing that an app with such an antique interface (going back to OS 9/Windows NT?) can still exist and people are willing to pay 189 € for a 3 place licence. I think, everybody arranges him- or herself with the stuff available on the local machine, we grow with it. You probably would go mad to see me "managing" my pictures in Aperture, and I would get big eyes and slight panic attacks to see you doing your MediaPro tricks. so, let's just enjoy the stuff we have, occasionally whine around a bit and see what the bright future pulls out of it's magic head...
  13. Are you possibly whining around about all those whinings? Glad to have one more on board... Oh, and don't forget the frog pills for constant happiness.
  14. LilleG, the use of that "whining" speaks for itself and doesn't make you look more intelligent. At least to me, but who am I? Just make a list of DAMs which have map features (GPS-track sync), intelligent folders and face recognition. Then add some advanced EXIF metadata in it (like serial-number of various camera-bodies), or only the possibility to search for unrated pictures. It should also be able to keep the import-window open while I go back to the library and create a new project or album (impossible on C1). A repair strategy on different levels of repairing should be included. The connection to galleries like SmugMug, Flickr or the like with back and forward sync as well. Incremental library backup. Different colors for different types of nodes (album, intelligent albums, projects, books, calendars, slideshows). The nodes I like to be able to duplicate and modify. Slideshows with manual or automatic stretch to a soundtrack, soundtracks to be selected directly in iTunes and of course, burnt as DVD with the correct parameters... It all depends on workflow. I guess with some chance, you're one of the "I know best how to organize and find my files, I don't need a library"-types with tons of folders, subfolders and subsubfolders. Me too - I just let Aperture or Capture One handle them. And if I compare the handling, I have to say, I better stay clear from Phase One software like Media Pro with it's various companies of different developers. There are a lot of great RAW developers out there. State of the art DAM? Less so. Much, much less so. Oh, and btw: Do you know a comparison sheet like "what can you do with Media Pro SE, but can't do with CaptureOne"? Because they just want to get nearly the same price (around 200$), but they don't have a documentation to download, the localisation of CaptureOne has some rough flaws, also no documentation in another language than English. Not helpful for people running C2 in a different language. Not to mention: Basically illegal to sell that app in Europe, due to this lack of docs.
  15. The app is "fab", at least in most parts - and if they change the UI colour to be set lighter, the even better. What Affinity is not doing "fab", not even remotely: Creating an excellent RAW-file manager. I mean, I still use Aperture if not daily, then weekly. ALTHOUGH it's dead end, ALTHOUGH I will not get updates, ALTHOUGH I invested some dosh in Capture One (not Media Pro, though, as I hate their UI), in OnOne, PhotoLine, Lyn, PhotoMechanic (only trial), Photo Supreme, Picktorial, GraphicConverter (because of it's library module), DxO (as trial), Pixelmator and Affinity. So many apps, none as convincing, reliable, easy to use and robust like Aperture - it's a shame to all these apps!

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