Nathan Shirley Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 Allow "Styles" to be modified in a similar way that they're saved. Currently they can't be modified/edited. You could simply select the modified object which you want to use to update the "Style," right-click on the "Style" you want to update/edit, and click on the new option "update Style from selection." That would be great. And/or... Allow "Text Styles" to include "Text Frame" parameters. Quote
walt.farrell Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 From our other discussion, you probably also want the updated Style to apply to objects that had the old Style applied. That can't happen without tracking the Style that is applied to objects. But in the case of Text Frames, that gives the other problem that, for example, different pieces of text in a frame can have different Paragraph or Character Text Styles applied. If you have a frame that has a Style applied, and that Style has Paragraph or Character Text Style information in it, that information will update all the text in the frame. Reapplying the Style would lose any individual paragraph or character settings for the text. It's really only safe to apply such a Style to a frame that has not had any text added to it. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Nathan Shirley Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 Right, that's a very good point. So in that case Styles should be left alone (well, it would still be handy to be able to update them from a selection). But Text Styles should include Text Frames in saved settings. Also there should be an option to "update all items associated with this Text Style." That way, if you made a change to a Text Style, for example modified paragraph spacing, you could then update all items in a project created with that Text Style so they would all reflect the new paragraph spacing. Having to select hundreds or thousands to change them all would be a nightmare. Quote
walt.farrell Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Nathan Shirley said: Also there should be an option to "update all items associated with this Text Style." That way, if you made a change to a Text Style, for example modified paragraph spacing, you could then update all items in a project created with that Text Style so they would all reflect the new paragraph spacing. Having to select hundreds or thousands to change them all would be a nightmare. That's already the way that Text Styles work. No option needed. Change a Text Style and the items it was applied to are updated automatically. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Nathan Shirley Posted October 4, 2019 Author Posted October 4, 2019 Ah good to know, I guess I was assuming that wasn't the case since it's possible to modify an item associated with a Text Style, but not modify the Text Style by doing so (unless you specifically tell it to). Good to have all options. So yes, just add Text Frame parameters to Text Styles and it would be perfect. Quote
walt.farrell Posted October 4, 2019 Posted October 4, 2019 And when the text within a Text Frame has different Text Styles applied, which should "win" for setting the Text Frame parameters? Also, is this just for stroke/fill, or is there something else associated with a Text Frame that you want the Text Styles to support? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Nathan Shirley Posted October 5, 2019 Author Posted October 5, 2019 Okay I see what you mean. Perhaps there's just no great way to do something like this. Quote
james948 Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Sorry to hop on this so late but I'd like Text Frame Styles so that I can apply insets. I can't see that this is possible at the moment. Quote
Joachim_L Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, james948 said: Sorry to hop on this so late but I'd like Text Frame Styles so that I can apply insets. Wouldn't left / right indents and space before and after paragraph not work for you? Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed
OzFrog Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 2:49 AM, james948 said: Sorry to hop on this so late but I'd like Text Frame Styles so that I can apply insets. I can't see that this is possible at the moment. Absolutely agree. All of the frame properties should be able to be applied with a style. Quote
james948 Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 3:57 PM, Joachim_L said: Wouldn't left / right indents and space before and after paragraph not work for you? the indents work. the space before and after doesn't change oddly. Quote
loukash Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 55 minutes ago, james948 said: space before and after doesn't change oddly Watch out for the "Space between same styles", "Sum space before and after" and "Use space before" options. On 3/18/2021 at 4:49 PM, james948 said: I'd like Text Frame Styles +1! On 3/18/2021 at 4:49 PM, james948 said: I can't see that this is possible at the moment. You can save formatted text frames as global assets, preserving all attributes incl. text style. It's a different workflow (I'm trying to avoid the unbeloved "workaround" term here) but it can fit the same purpose in many scenarios. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) On 3/18/2021 at 4:49 PM, james948 said: I can't see that this is possible at the moment. Another workflow: copy the formatted text frame (or any object, for that matter) to the clipboard select the unformatted destination object(s) Edit > Paste Style (note that it also affects any text inside a text frame) Edited March 21, 2021 by loukash Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
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