Alex_M Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I recently got a new phone, Samsung S10, and I wanted to try the RAW shooting mode. In this mode the phone produces DNG files so I loaded them up in Affinity Photo to see how they come out and was surprised how heavily desaturated the are, nothing like the actual scene I shot. Even moving the saturation slider in the Develop Persona all the way doesn't manage to recover the full saturation of the real image. I have Photoshop also installed so I tried the same image and it reads the DNG files fine with proper saturation as shot. Please see the attached image for comparison. Left is Affinity Photo and on the right is Photoshop. Any ideas why this happens and how to fix it? Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 for Windows ◾ OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 ver. 22H2 ◾ CPU: AMD Ryzen 7950X 16-core ◾ RAM: 64 GB DDR5-6400 ◾ GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Suprim X 24GB / driver 526.98 ◾ NVMe SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB ◾ Monitors: 2x Eizo ColorEdge CS2420 24" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It would probably help to supply one of the actual DNG files, Alex. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_M Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 No problem, here's the original DNG. 20190926_155034.rar Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 for Windows ◾ OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 ver. 22H2 ◾ CPU: AMD Ryzen 7950X 16-core ◾ RAM: 64 GB DDR5-6400 ◾ GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Suprim X 24GB / driver 526.98 ◾ NVMe SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB ◾ Monitors: 2x Eizo ColorEdge CS2420 24" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Thanks. I see the same thing in Photo for that image (but I can't compare with Photoshop). Bringing up the black point helps. I see in the Histogram that there's a significant area at the lower end with nothing, followed by an area with very low levels, and eliminating them makes it significantly closer to what you showed in Photoshop. There's also a big spike at the top end of the Histogram. Bringing the input black level up to 11% and the input white level down to 97% helps. But I can't explain the differences between how Photo is processing the image and how Photoshop processed it. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Lee D Posted September 26, 2019 Staff Share Posted September 26, 2019 The Samsung S10 isn't on the supported RAW list for the SerifLABS RAW engine that Affinity Photo uses, this may explain the difference. You can always bump the Saturation, Vibrance and White Balance to get a better match. If you was using the macOS version, you could switch the RAW engine over to Apples Core Image engine which opens the image similar to PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_M Posted September 26, 2019 Author Share Posted September 26, 2019 Thanks for letting me know, Lee. No, I'm on Windows 10. Do you think this can be improved in the newer versions? In the mean time I will try adding saturation layers after developing the photo. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4.2 for Windows ◾ OS: Windows 10 Pro x64 ver. 22H2 ◾ CPU: AMD Ryzen 7950X 16-core ◾ RAM: 64 GB DDR5-6400 ◾ GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Suprim X 24GB / driver 526.98 ◾ NVMe SSD Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB ◾ Monitors: 2x Eizo ColorEdge CS2420 24" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Lee D said: The Samsung S10 isn't on the supported RAW list for the SerifLABS RAW engine that Affinity Photo uses, this may explain the difference. Not really. The Samsung S10 is from 2019, PS CS6 Camera Raw 9.1.1 is from 2015 and it looks much better in Photoshop. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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