ADe : How to resize/rotate the *contents* of a cropped image (not its frame)?

[Quinn]

How do I resize and rotate the *contents* of a cropped image (not the frame)?

1. Place an image using the Place Image Tool.
2. Use the Crop tool to set the size and position of the image frame exactly where you want it.
3. How to change the size of the image contents (so the frame remains exactly as it is)? 
4. How to change the rotation of the image contents (so the frame remains exactly as it is)? 
5. I can see that I can adjust the position of the image contents using the Crop tool. 

I'm familiar with Quark and InDesign concept of an image frame which contains the image, and you can modify either the frame or the image inside, separately.

Ok, so if it's not possible (grrr! I've already set the correct position of all my images!), then how can I achieve the same (fixed frames, transformable contents)?

[Pšenda]

2 hours ago, Quinn said:

Quark and InDesign

Adequate would be the Affinity Publisher. As far as I know, so the images work the same way (Picture Frame tool).

[Move Along People]

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[toltec]

 

 

5 hours ago, Quinn said:

How do I resize and rotate the *contents* of a cropped image (not the frame)?

1. Place an image using the Place Image Tool.
2. Use the Crop tool to set the size and position of the image frame exactly where you want it.
3. How to change the size of the image contents (so the frame remains exactly as it is)? 
4. How to change the rotation of the image contents (so the frame remains exactly as it is)? 
5. I can see that I can adjust the position of the image contents using the Crop tool. 

Tick Lock Children on the Context Toolbar. Then just the image contents will move inside the frame.

To be honest, from what you describe, you are working back to front. The  vector crop tool masks the image, so the image is the main component. The masking frame is nested inside the image (as a mask) and is the child, hence Lock Children. 

Personally, I think it is better to place the image inside a clipping rectangle (or frame) as @haakoois describing. Then the frame is the main component. Easier to set the exact frame size and position first, then fit and crop the image contents to that. More DTP, like Quark or InDesign.

Draw and position the rectangle first, click Insert Inside and that 'clips' the placed image inside the frame outlines.

To edit, if you click on the frame once, it selects the frame and the content.

If you double-click on the frame, it selects the content, which you can then rotate, resize or move without affecting the frame. Everything is non-destructive and editable at any time.

But both options work.

[lettergothic]

Hi,

I just can't get this to work with any of the advice.  😕    I'm in Designer 1.9 and I want to resize & rotate a placed image within its frame w/o rotating the frame. I've done this endlessly in QXP by clicking on the placed image with the Content tool and resizing and rotating the image w/o resizing or rotating the box that the image is in. I guess that I need dumbed-down instructions . . .  For future reference, will whatever the solution is, be the same in Photo and Publisher?

As always, thanks!

lettergothic

[walt.farrell]

49 minutes ago, lettergothic said:

Hi,

I just can't get this to work with any of the advice.  😕    I'm in Designer 1.9 and I want to resize & rotate a placed image within its frame w/o rotating the frame. I've done this endlessly in QXP by clicking on the placed image with the Content tool and resizing and rotating the image w/o resizing or rotating the box that the image is in. I guess that I need dumbed-down instructions . . .  For future reference, will whatever the solution is, be the same in Photo and Publisher?

As always, thanks!

lettergothic

Placed Images don't have frames in Designer, or Photo. Publisher has Picture Frames, but the other applications don't.

So we'll need more information about what you mean by a frame. Maybe some screenshots, including the Layers panel.

[Pšenda]

9 hours ago, lettergothic said:

I want to resize & rotate a placed image within its frame w/o rotating the frame. ... in QXP

APublisher (QXP equivalent), Picture Frame Image Tool, Insert Image (Context Toolbar button Replace Image), Move Tool and change frame content.

Edited June 23, 2021 by Pšenda

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, lettergothic said:

I'm in Designer 1.9 and I want to resize & rotate a placed image within its frame w/o rotating the frame.

In AD an image may have a fill and a stroke (border) without the need for a frame. So, to rotate the image in a frame you must create a frame first and use this as clipping mask for the image. You can use the Vector Crop Tool – or one of the shape objects, with e.g. Rectangle Tool. With the vector crop tool you get a rectangle as child of the image layer – whereas a rectangle shape object would have the image nested as its child layer. The option "Lock Children" in the Context Toolbar defines whether a nested layer gets changed together with its parent layer.

With Vector Crop Tool: In the context bar select "Lock Children", then rotate. The image will turn while its masking frame remains straight:

If you select only the clipping layer you rotate the frame but not the image:

Whereas the Rectangle Shape Tool object requires the layer order vice versa to be a frame for the image:

[lettergothic]

Hey Thomaso.

Thanks very much for your explanation and for visually showing the steps. I was able to get it to work with your help. Sorry for the delay in responding.

lettergothic