SirPL Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Hi, I'm not sure if it's a bug or intended, but I find very annoying the fact I can't change inherited [No Change] value to 0. By default the Base paragraph style has Space After of 12pt. Let's say I created a new paragraph style that bases on the Base. In order to change Space After of the new style to 0 I can't simply enter 0 because it is automatically changed to [No Change] value. In order to get 0pt I have to enter 1pt and lower it using small arrows in the input box which is a bit annoying. For me 0 should be treated as a meaningful value and an empty value should be changed to [No Change]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Hmm … I believe that does work correctly here. Click the [No Change] input. The value will change to 0 pt (or another default value) Select the default value and enter 0 Press Return or Tab Your change should be registered Can you reproduce that? Enter-Values.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_B_C Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It does even work without entering the value: Click the [No Change] input. The value will change to 0 pt (or another default value) Make sure that the caret cursor is blinking inside Press Return or Tab Your change should be registered Cheers, Alex Even-Simpler.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPL Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Doesn't work on Windows. Pressing enter with or without entering 0 does not cause the change being registered. So that's a clear bug of Windows UI. Dear moderators, please move this thread to Affinity Publisher Beta / Bugs on Windows forum. A_B_C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 5 hours ago, SirPL said: By default the Base paragraph style has Space After of 12pt. Let's say I created a new paragraph style that bases on the Base. In order to change Space After of the new style to 0 I can't simply enter 0 because it is automatically changed to [No Change] value. Something's odd. My default Base style has Space After of 0. On another try, I see Base as having a Space After of 12 pt. Not sure what's going on. But ignoring that, if I create a new paragraph style based on Base none of the Spacing settings for the new style shows as No Change. They all have values inherited from Base. And I can easily change them. Actually, once I got it to show "[No Change]" so there is something inconsistent happening. But clicking in the box automatically changed it to 0pt and it saved correctly. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPL Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 Please find a gif where I show my initial complaint, i.e.: Base has Space After of 12 pt (which actually is not a complaint) I'm unable to change Space After of Body (which inherit from Base) to 0 pt with entering [0] and pressing [Enter] I can't get it working with simply pressing [Enter] when 0 pt is visible I can get it working when I enter 1 and lower the value Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I think the Space after from Base is being carried over all the way to the based on, duplicated new style you are creating and also you are doing a 'duplicate' of Body instead of a 'based on' version. Goodness my head hurts. This is, if not an actual bug, very counter-intuitive behaviour. I love this sort of problem, I shall investigate further. Oh, I am on Mac and seeing very similar, if not the same, behaviour. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Duplicating the style makes the 'Space after' stick. Based on means I can change the Space after to anything, very very odd behaviour. Still early but I think this is a bug, Will try some more testing later. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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