Affinity publisher - resource manager

[Iztok]

When looking for photos profile in resource manager very important data is colour profile - rgb or cmyk, that row is missing, also button for missing files.

[Hangman]

4 minutes ago, Iztok said:

When looking for photos profile in resource manager very important data is colour profile - rgb or cmyk, that row is missing, also button for missing files.

The colour profile for the image is shown below the large thumbnail at the right-hand side of the Resource Manager... For missing files, you can sort the status column by selecting it so it shows all Missing files together...

[Iztok]

but that mean, that if you have 100 of photos, you need to check evryone to see if is rgb or cmyk - not user friendly and time consuming. When , so one more row coluld spare a lot of time, dont you think? I have just now this problem, because I have more than hundred of photos and must look and open every one, not practical at all. And is very important

[Hangman]

1 minute ago, Iztok said:

but that mean, that if you have 100 of photos, you need to check evryone to see if is rgb or cmyk - not user friendly and time consuming. When , so one more row coluld spare a lot of time, dont you think?

I agree, that would be a nice addition but again, this is not a bug but a feature request so should be posted in the appropriate forum, i.e., the Feedback for the Affinity V2 Suite of Products forum...

[Hangman]

2 minutes ago, anto said:

I once wrote about this here, but I don't know where this topic is now and whether anyone has responded to it. Perhaps it is gathering dust in the archive.

[Pšenda]

10 minutes ago, Hangman said:

but a feature request so should be posted in the appropriate forum, i.e., the Feedback for the Affinity V2 Suite of Products forum...

For example:

 

[Pšenda]

19 minutes ago, Hangman said:

but again, this is not a bug

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[thomaso]

17 hours ago, Iztok said:

but that mean, that if you have 100 of photos, you need to check evryone to see if is rgb or cmyk - not user friendly and time consuming. When , so one more row coluld spare a lot of time, dont you think? I have just now this problem, because I have more than hundred of photos and must look and open every one, not practical at all. And is very important

Affinity also enables you to check a deviating colour space & profile of linked resources via the Preflight Panel … and displays the result as list of all relevant items.

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However, may I ask for what purpose you "must look" this data for every resource? And why you would have to "open every one" ? – Isn't it sufficient to choose the option "Convert Image Colours Spaces" in the PDF Export settings?

Now I wonder if the bug "afb-6109" has been fixed in V2. – Otherwise your requested additional column for colour space and/or profile might not be as useful as expected and may mislead with wrong and weird results (for instance by reporting CMYK as colour space of a PNG).

Finally, of course you can check colour space & profile of linked resources outside of Affinity, with any app that displays the file's metadata.

[Iztok]

Yes I can check in other way, but resource manager is basic, so I can find photo Finder, I can replace foto in there but why I can't see colour profile in source app manager, because it is better there than in Finder. Ii it realy so hard to include one more column in there and button for missing links, whay are you need users to sent his opinion? Simple example I have 100 photos three of them are rgb and the rest cmyk, i like this three to replace profile but I don't know which one, so I must go to Finder or look veery single link in manager. Yes I can find in Finder but why not in resource manager is there any reason why not the short and best way?

[Oufti]

6 hours ago, Iztok said:

is there any reason why not the short and best way?

@thomaso described what is the short and easy way:

On 1/31/2025 at 1:21 PM, thomaso said:

Isn't it sufficient to choose the option "Convert Image Colours Spaces" in the PDF Export settings?

 

[Iztok]

Lets talk abouth PNG and jpeg CMYK conversion, you have 100 cmyk photos and three RGB profile, and you must al set to CMYK, now you need to know which one is in rgb and which one is cmyk.  So, user friendly is to have another coloumn with colour space - simple.

And why I need to have when I am doing right color space, because in screen you have different colors when photo is in RGB or CMYK and if you have professional monitor there is difference, if you are amateur then is OK.

[Oufti]

29 minutes ago, Iztok said:

you need to know which one is in rgb and which one is cmyk

You'll know it if you use the Preflight panel (once again, as said above by @thomaso).

[Iztok]

Super, preflight mess

[Iztok]

Why should be simpšle if can be super complicated, just one row in resource manager solve all this mes and you are trying to show that all complicated nonsence is better.

[thomaso]

3 hours ago, Iztok said:

Why should be simpšle if can be super complicated,

Yes. If your goal is a PDF with images in a certain CMYK profile, …

• the simplest way is to export the PDF with the desired profile and either enable "Convert image color spaces" (to avoid RGB images in the PDF), or enable "Embed profiles" to ensure that profiles of RGB images are known / available in the PDF for conversion right before output (e.g. printing).

• there is no need to convert images separately into CMYK before placing them in Affinity and every extra conversion of single images makes the process more complex than required.

[Iztok]

Simpliest way is in in Aff Photo -action -New Batrch job, put 50 photos in, then make simple included action to  change colour profile to CMYK and jpeg in new folder, takes two minutes for that, than logical be, that replace in image folder inside packageall png with jpeg with same name and if  extension jpeg and PNG doesn't make rule, but only name of photo, and manager works as shuld, than you can replace colour profile for 50 images in 3 minutes, thas is quick and simple, everything else is the stone age.

[Iztok]

IS this realy so hard to do?

[Iztok]

The package creation system clearly has a flaw in that the files transferred to a new package are not relinked, but rather links are retained or some files from previous links are pulled into this package, so the resource manager shows what is in this package, but then we have a problem when changing the relink, because in the next package, it breaks again. This is a major flaw that significantly affects the work, so I would expect the programmers to fix this alarmingly, because it is almost impossible to complete the project, hours and hours of time lost due to sloppiness and lack of verification.

[Iztok]

Try to change profile in Photo persona - just loop, for three minutes, file of 2 kb, and RGB remain rgb. it is Toff file

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, Iztok said:

replace colour profile for 50 images in 3 minutes, thas is quick and simple, everything else is the stone age.

Isn't it rather "stone age" to convert images on disk to CMYK... instead of leaving the conversion to the PDF export with that profile that will be required (by a specific CMYK print process or for RGB screen view for instance)? – What advantage do you see in a separate conversion of your image files?

1 hour ago, Iztok said:

IS this realy so hard to do?

No, of course not. ... But it is simply not available yet, and just that is the reason to discuss alternative options.

And, once Serif will implement a request, they also may want to improve more than just one aspect in the Resource Manager but also, for instance, a column for other meta data (e.g. creation date, modification date, keywords, source hard-/software, original size, placed size, et al.) + clean up the preview/detail area which currently wastes screen space by its layout but crops longer entries (e.g. long profile names).

I don't  know which of the requested V1 improvements have been realized in V2 but apparently there are still some missing.

[lepr]

47 minutes ago, Iztok said:

Try to change profile in Photo persona - just loop, for three minutes, file of 2 kb, and RGB remain rgb. it is Toff file

 

That Convert dialog is designed to convert the Affinity document itself. It is not for converting placed image objects, and therefore it is correctly not producing the result which you are hoping to get.

[Iztok]

Not if you can change 50 photos in minute, stone agee is converting each photo in photo persona, that is slow, very slow and doesn't work well, I want to change tiff to cmyk and 2 kb and the  was rgb again. I work now with 500 photos in one document, I belive everyone who work in magazine or catalog with lot of photos need  quick solution not slow. I change 50 profiles from .png to jpeg and cmyk in AffPhoto in 3 minutes automatic work, don't say this is stone age. 

[Iztok]

Every designer need to know what colour profile is photo and not to open or click each to see, especialy when you have a lot of photos, you can't select and control profile if you have 200 photos, IS realy that hard to set another row with this info?

[thomaso]

13 minutes ago, Iztok said:

Not if you can change 50 photos in minute, stone agee is converting each photo in photo persona, that is slow, very slow and doesn't work well, I want to change tiff to cmyk and 2 kb and the  was rgb again. I work now with 500 photos in one documen, I belive everyone who work in magazine or catalog wit lot of photos need brigt quick option not slow. I change 50 profiles prom png to jpeg and cmyk in AffPhoto in 3 minutes automatic work, don't say this is stone age. 

12 minutes ago, Iztok said:

Every designer need to know what colour profile is photo

Why do you think it is important to convert every single image or know the profile of every single image? If you are exporting a magazine or catalog, you can use your export settings to ensure that each of your 500 images is converted during that one export. From that perspective, it seems like "stone age" not to use this feature and instead convert each file on disk individually.

Additionally, if you convert image files separately to a certain CMYK profile, a later print process may require another CMYK profile and thus it will cause an additional colour conversion from one CMYK profile into the other, finally required CMYK profile.

[Iztok]

Think about Thomaso, if, you have 50 or 100 images, I currently have over 500, some are PNG, you get the materials from various sites, some are in the CMYK profile, some in RGB, let's say you have 400 images in CMYK and 100 in RGB and that's mixed, and now you have to open or group those that are in RGB to change them to CMYK - because of the colors on the screen - so you go from one to the other and look at what profile it has? Or you have an additional column and you can immediately see which ones they are and you can group them by profile, so what's easier? Of course, I know that's how it is now and I solved the matter in my own way, but if we are here to make the program better, then it makes sense to draw attention to the problems in practical work and suggest solutions. I worked in InDesign for over 20 years, but I switched to Affinity due to Adobe's blackmail policy. It has a very good design, but I'm bothered by such unfinished solutions or lack thereof or some default settings, such as in the transform panel, when you basically have the option of disproportionate image size change included, which is exactly the opposite in terms of practical use. A professional doesn't distort any image. These are inconsistencies, it's about simplifying the user experience and logical operation. Many of us have migrated from Adobe applications and some things bother us.