bpedit Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 I primarily work on iPad but it seems this issue is extant on Mac desktop too. I'm trying to add Adjustments to a pixel layer. This seems to work for a limited few adjustments, none useful to me. But adjustments like Levels, Curves, Contrast and most others produce no effect. If I export my pixel layer as a PNG then import it, the adjustments will work. Is there something I'm missing? The pixel layer and the imported PNG are both pixel based, it's unclear why one doesn't respond the the adjustments. Quote iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (3rd generation) iOS 18.2.1 iMac 24-inch, M1, 2021 macOS 13.4.1
NotMyFault Posted December 25, 2024 Posted December 25, 2024 We would need a screen recording and a copy of the actual file. I observed general issues on iPad (M1) that rendering any changes stops completely after some time in Photo or Designer and you need to trigger a redraw by zooming, or even exit to app Home Screen to get redraws again. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
bpedit Posted December 25, 2024 Author Posted December 25, 2024 For the following a pixel layer has been created with some practice scribbling. That layer was exported, for comparison, as a JPEG and placed back into the AD file beneath the pixel layer. The video shows a Curves adjustment and its effects (or not) on the two objects. RPReplay_Final1735166558.MP4 The file: pixelLayerAdjustmentTest.afdesign Quote iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (3rd generation) iOS 18.2.1 iMac 24-inch, M1, 2021 macOS 13.4.1
carl123 Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 Can you upload the test file again the forum says not found Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
NotMyFault Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 You have a pixel layer where you paint in black with low opacity. This creates a pixel layer where the modulation of lightness is created only over the alpha channel, not over the RGB channels. An adjustment on RGB has no effect because all color values are still zero. When you export to JPG the pixel layer gets flattened and matted, meaning that any transparent areas get filled in white, and any semitransparent pixel get converted to shades of grey and full opacity. Now that you have different non-zero color values, the adjustment layer cuts in as expected. bpedit 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
Affinity Rat Posted December 26, 2024 Posted December 26, 2024 My interpretation of this is that you are apply a curves adjust (which as Notmyfault) says is an alpha or transparency adjustment to two layers. In the case of the jpg, there is no transparency only shades of gray, representing partially transparent pixels. In the case of the png, png retains transparency. So performing a transparency operation on these two entirely different formats gives very different results. The png already has transparency so the curves adjustment accentuates what is already there. The jpg has no transparency so the curves adjustment adds some, but does not accentuate anything because nothing is transparent, only gray. As black becomes transparent it appears gray, but this is not equivalent to alpha, so jpg and png very different representations. Obviously a layer below a png would be partially visible, but a layer below the jpg not, gray in jog does not equate to transparency. My simple understanding. 😊 bpedit 1 Quote
bpedit Posted December 26, 2024 Author Posted December 26, 2024 Bingo! Thanks! So the solution is to paint down a base layer of white. Just tried that and it works. Oufti 1 Quote iPad Pro (12.9-inch) (3rd generation) iOS 18.2.1 iMac 24-inch, M1, 2021 macOS 13.4.1
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