pomme27 Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 I'd like to start learning about AI image generation tools. As a first step, can anyone recommend a good tool to generate high quality vector images that can then be edited with Affinity Designer? Willing to spend some money on a trial. Thx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 As far as I am aware Ai doesn't generate vector it generates raster imagery. R C-R 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 hours ago, firstdefence said: As far as I am aware Ai doesn't generate vector it generates raster imagery. It probably will be able to do that at some point in the future & it will be interesting to see if it can avoid some of the pitfalls of auto-tracers like excessive numbers of nodes in the vector shapes it generates or other simplifications humans can do manually.... Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, R C-R said: It probably will be able to do that at some point in the future & it will be interesting to see if it can avoid some of the pitfalls of auto-tracers like excessive numbers of nodes in the vector shapes it generates or other simplifications humans can do manually.... It's quite telling that AI cant yet do vector creation from scratch. I suppose you could create a clean raster in a vectorised style and then get a decent tracer app to break it up into vectors. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, firstdefence said: I suppose you could create a clean raster in a vectorised style and then get a decent tracer app to break it up into vectors. I suspect that at some point (probably not soon though) an AI function will not have to do a rasterize step because it will have been trained on enough images to understand how generative requests like "vector tulip flower" or "vector laughing face" could be created from scratch, built up from huge libraries of primitive vector shapes .... more or less mimicking how humans could do it. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 See for example … https://www.kittl.com/feature/ai-text-to https://vectorart.ai/ www.recraft.ai https://topai.tools/s/vector-art-generator ai vector generator … R C-R 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme27 Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just FYI: I've tried a few free AI drawing generators, such as Perchance.org. I've also tried DALL-E2, which is purported to be one of the better AI drawing tools. To use DALL-E2, you have to buy about $20 of credits to get started. Each image you generate costs 1 credit. Using DALL-E2, the prompt "digital art image of elongated female skier on snow skis in the art deco style of George Barbier" generates that attached image. I am not at all impressed with the image, which probably reflects my inexperience with the tool. As with the free tools, images generated with DALL-E2 download as PNG files. Not sure exactly what to do with those images as far as Affinity Designer is concerned. My goal is to be able to generate high quality AI images of selected objects that are beyond my artistic skills (such as skin textures), and then edit and use the AI objects as components of my artwork. Clearly I have much more to learn. [MOD EDIT - Image removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 47 minutes ago, v_kyr said: See for example … FWIW, I only looked at the second one & only downloaded this one item: download.svg It is both impressive & disappointing because there are so many small shapes with lots of nodes & some not very good looking things in it like the windows. So based on that one hopefully representative sample AI has a way to go before it can do this as well as I would like. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomme27 Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 Just FYI: Used MidJourney to create the attached AI image as a PNG file, then used Vectorize.ai to convert the PNG to SVG. MidJourney seems to have potential but has a learning curve (which I've only just started on). Vectorize.ai is free at the moment, as it's in beta. However, it creates a separate editable object for each color shade in the PNG file. So you get LOTS of small, abstract shapes. Now I need to learn how to create just the object I want rather than an entire image. [MOD EDIT - Image removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, pomme27 said: However, it creates a separate editable object for each color shade in the PNG file. So you get LOTS of small, abstract shapes. That seems to be a frequent downside of most if not all auto-tracers ... & probably will also be true for AI-assisted vector generation apps until they get a lot 'smarter.' 1 hour ago, pomme27 said: Now I need to learn how to create just the object I want rather than an entire image. If you are starting with a raster image like a PNG you can try erasing the stuff you don't want before using an auto-tracer. There will probably still be a lot of shapes to deal with but less than if the entire image was processed. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioastron Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Oh, if it's still relevant, I've been experimenting with one generator recently. The downside is that many features are locked behind the paid version, but I think it’s still worth mentioning. I learned about it from my designer wife. She mentioned that they use their own art as training data for the generator. It sounds interesting, though I'm not entirely sure how accurate that is. Attaching the link: https://icons8.com/illustration-generator And if anyone knows of similar generators that use their own artwork, I'd love to hear about them more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 As I've covered in the following post here - Quote We are happy for users to have relevant and courteous discussions regarding AI tools and the ethics surrounding them here - but please do not use the Affinity Forums as a place to simply copy and paste AI transcripts and AI artwork with the accompanying prompt. If you wish to log your findings when using AI models, we ask that you do this elsewhere online as this is not what the Affinity Forums are designed for. And my colleague has also covered this in the post here - On 1/19/2024 at 3:17 PM, Patrick Connor said: These Forums are not for sharing AI created artwork, or discussions regarding AI prompts to create specific images. Therefore I will be updating this thread to remove AI generated images from external services. Thanks for your understanding. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radioastron Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Dan C said: As I've covered in the following post here - And my colleague has also covered this in the post here - Therefore I will be updating this thread to remove AI generated images from external services. Thanks for your understanding. My apologies. I will try to be more considerate to forum rules next time. Dan C 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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