Possible bug in Publisher?

[Gianni Becattini]

I am not sure that this is the right place, if not, sorry.

I believe I found a bug in Publisher (2.2 but also before). If you watch at the attached images, you can see something like "a shadow" in the lower part of the page 225.  This shadow comes from the upper image of the fronting page (224) and is due to a Brightness/Contrast layer that "escapes" the picture frame and reaches even the following (fronting) page, and that also after having "Rasterised and trimmed" the picture.

I could solve applying the layer to the image layer only (i.e., not as an independent layer).

[Pšenda]

50 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

you can see something like "a shadow" in the lower part of the page 225.

It would be good to indicate the problematic place in the picture - this way it is difficult to orient yourself in what you think is the problem.
It would also be advisable to insert a file - perhaps just these two problematic pages.

[Return]

I guess this is the part that has the "spill" 
Workaround is to add a filled rectangle to the image/pixel layer or adjustment layer in the mask position aka drag/drop over the thumbnail.

[thomaso]

It is impossible to judge the situation just by an exported result.

• Do you get the the unwanted darkening after export only, not within APub?
• Can you post a screenshot that includes the spread + the Layers panel with unfolded layers?

I don't get an extended adjustment in APub V1:

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

I don't get an extended adjustment in APub V1:

You have the adjustment layer properly nested to the object. @Gianni Becattini indicated that he has it as an independent layer, not nested.

Gianni -- If you want the adjustment to apply only to the image, you must nest it to the image layer. If it is independent, I believe it will, properly, affect everything below it in the Layers panel, on the entire spread.

[Return]

3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

you must nest it to the image layer.

Or mask it.

[thomaso]

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

on the entire spread.

But it is visually limited to a certain area on the spread. Wouldn't that require a mask for an independently positioned adjustment layer?

[Gianni Becattini]

Yes, it seems to be so. But I thought that the image frame could "isolate" its content, whatever it was.

I will post the files next, because I modified them and need to retrieve a backup. However, in the attachment you can see the unwanted effect. I suppose that when I trimmed the image layer, some "hole" created in the adjustment layer, that I however imagined it was cut out from the frame, if you can understand what I want to say.

[walt.farrell]

5 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

But I thought that the image frame could "isolate" its content, whatever it was.

You haven't shown us the Layers panel, have you? 

If the adjustment layer is nested within the Picture Frame then yes, it should be limited. But if it is "independent" as I interpret your earlier post to mean, then it applies to everything below it in the Layers panel.

[walt.farrell]

8 minutes ago, thomaso said:

But it is visually limited to a certain area on the spread. Wouldn't that require a mask for an independently positioned adjustment layer?

Sorry; don't understand your question.

[Return]

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

then it applies to everything below it in the Layers panel.

This may also rasterize any text into a bitmap at export.

[thomaso]

6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Sorry; don't understand your question.

The adjustment (-> darkened area) does not affect the entire spread, as you stated. That made me assume any mask (or clipping) being involved.

However, it's guessing only unless we see @Gianni Becattini's detailed setup.

[Gianni Becattini]

Hi guys, you are right, I am a donkey... I didn't tell the things completely. I try to remedy:

1. The original image is in a .afphoto file. It contains only the image and the adjustment layer and is cropped (and trimmed) about at the dimension you see on page 225, the upper one (the margins are rather tight). So, in theory, it has no reason to exceed so much.
2. The Publisher document that you see has a frame with inside the "5B10 left.afphoto" file (linked); (see attachment)
3. So, in my opinion, the Publisher frame should "limit" to its perimeter whatever is inside the Photo file;
4. in reality, instead, the adjustment layer (that stays in the Photo file) "overflows" out of the frame boundaries and changes the fronting page

[Dan C]

Hi @Gianni Becattini,

Sorry to hear you're having trouble & many thanks for the further information provided in the above post as this is certainly helpful!

I have tried replicating your document setup here, though I'm not seeing the same 'overflow' issue with the adjustment layer in the embedded .afphoto document on my end.

Therefore I'd like to request a copy of your .afpub file (if you wish, this can simply be a cutdown version of your file containing only the page(s) where this issue occurs, rather than the full document), can you please upload this to the below link for me?

https://www.dropbox.com/request/NPMS1OWxJm0ShA6ycXfh

Once uploaded, please reply here to let me know.

Many thanks in advance  

[Gianni Becattini]

Thanks for your kindness. I am abroad now, tomorrow I do, thanks

[Gianni Becattini]

The files have been loaded:

• V2_CH4_5000-Series copia.afpub - the publisher file (see page 224/225, numbers on the upper page corners)
• 5B10 front.afphoto, 5B10 left.afphoto, 5B10 right.afphoto - the 3 images contained in the above said pages
• V2_CH4_5000-Series copia.pdf the wrong file generated

Thanks

[Dan C]

Many thanks for providing these for me and my apologies for the delayed response!

I've tried exporting your spread here and I'm not seeing the same issue,

Though this may be due to the following:

• I'm missing resource "5B10 top.afphoto" which is the file where this issue occurs in your exported PDF
• I'm unsure of your current PDF export settings

Can you please upload a copy of the aforementioned document to the same Dropbox link, and provide a screenshot of your PDF export settings here for me?

Many thanks once again

[Gianni Becattini]

Thanks to you!

The 5B10top file has been loaded. In attachment the settings (but I tried several settings - no change).

Note that the problem has been solved by moving the adjustment layer in the 5B10left file, from being a "global" file, to being a sublayer of the image layer (i.e., below & indented).

[Dan C]

Much appreciated - I've now been able to replicate this issue and I've logged it with our development team!

Thanks for letting me know how you've resolved this, I've also included that information with the dev report

[Gianni Becattini]

Thanks to you, I appreciate your help.

By the way, with the last 2.2, Publisher has greatly improved, so I no longer regret having used it for my books instead of InDesign (that I have, however).

The most critical point, for me, a small author more than a professional, was the lack of page references, so now I have almost all I want.

Also the stability problems, if not disappeared, are no longer a continuous worry. My books are are rather big, with 8-10 chapters each and very many images; all of them are Affinity Photo files, often rather complex, no simple jpeg, for a total of more than 2,000 pages. That to say that if AP works for me ...it is a good test bench for Publisher.

Thanks again for the help I find here, that is almost fifty percent of the Affinity products value.

[walt.farrell]

32 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

and very many images; all of them are Affinity Photo files, often rather complex, no simple jpeg

Have you considered exporting them as JPG to simplify the processing required by Publisher?

[Gianni Becattini]

I still edit these documents very often (one of them is going to be printed). If used the jpg format, I had to make about 3,000 exports (so many are the images), and then redo the process for every edit.

Or there is a better way that I missed?

[walt.farrell]

3 minutes ago, Gianni Becattini said:

and then redo the process for every edit.

But all you need to do is re-export the single changed file, and the .afpub file picks it up automatically, just as it picks up the changed .afphoto file.

And the JPG files require significantly lower processing in Publisher when working on our exporting the Publisher file. 

While you certainly can use .afphoto files as you are, I think you would have a much better work experience with that document in Publisher if you were using JPG files.

[Gianni Becattini]

Thanks, Walt,

in the future I will follow this suggestion.

[thomaso]

2 hours ago, Gianni Becattini said:

I had to make about 3,000 exports (so many are the images), and then redo the process for every edit.

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

While you certainly can use .afphoto files as you are, I think you would have a much better work experience with that document in Publisher if you were using JPG files.

In addition to Walt's suggestion to export + place JPG files, you also have the option to save the opened + edited images as flattened files. While you would work this way destructive for later edits, you would not need to save .aphoto files at all. For certain edits that don't have 'creative' but rather 'objective' edits in mind this may be faster and is less disk space demanding. This also enables you to do the layout before editing the single images because you handle with only 1 file per motive.