Master Page Size Presets Are Incorrect When Adding A Second Different Size Master

[Hangman]

I'm unsure if this has been reported previously (an initial search didn't reveal anything though I could easily have missed it) but it affects 2.1.1 and 2.2.0.1971.

Adding a different-sized second Master page in Publisher by selecting the page size from the list of page presets results in the incorrect preset being selected. The preset list uses the full list of page sizes that appeared in v 1.10.6 which were subsequently removed in v2 with a view to shortening the preset list...

*Custom presets added to the default list

and so on...

All preset page sizes are also shown using the document unit rather than the page unit, i.e., US page size presets are shown in mm instead of inches if the document unit is mm which may or may not be by design but it differs from the New Document page size presets...

[Dan C]

Hi Hangman,

I'm unable to recreate this issue, could you show a screen recording for your method for checking this?

For the second issue, electing a US page size should not override the document units when selecting US page sizes.

Lee

 

[Hangman]

Hi @Lee_T,

Of course, no problem...

Note: I've added four custom page sizes to the default list, namely A0, A1, A2, and DL under the 'Print' category so you will see different results with the default list of v2 page sizes than shown in the screen recording.

Because the v1 default page sizes start at A0 and I've also added A0, A1 and A2 to my list, adding a different-sized Master page just so happens to match the v1 list so the page sizes shown (for me) are correct when adding a second Master page sized between A0 and A6, but since the default list in v2 starts at A3 you should see the A0 page size when selecting the A3 preset.

The list of page sizes literally follows that of v1 from top to bottom, i.e.,

 

You will also notice, as shown in the screen recording, that when adding a new, differently sized Master page all page sizes are shown in the current document unit, so if the document unit is mm then US page sizes are also shown in mm and likewise when the document unit is inches, ISO 216 page sizes are shown in inches. This differs from the New Document panel...

[Hangman]

Hi @Lee_T,

Could I please bump this issue... it doesn't look as though it was ever logged as a bug (i.e., there's no big reference assigned to the thread) but the issue still exists in all v2 versions...

[MikeTO]

I'm not seeing this, for me the default and custom presets shown in Add Master exactly match the list in New Document. Perhaps your mru file is corrupted somehow?

There is an unrelated bug which I think is logged with facing pages - adding a new master to a facing pages document defaults to non-facing pages.

 

[Hangman]

Even after deleting custom presets, deleting the mru.dat file and a factory reset of Publisher I still see the same issue... the page dimensions for the now deleted custom presets are still shown for page sizes when adding a new Master as per the table in the first post...

[MikeTO]

Oh I understand what you're reporting now. Here's my description of it:

1. Using the default set of page sizes with no custom sizes added, create a new A4 document - turn off facing pages for simplicity
2. Add Master - it defaults to A4 (297x210)
3. Reselect A4 from the list - for me it now shows a page size of 594x841 which is A1. Selecting any size will display the preset size that is 3 items lower in the list:

• A3 is mapped to A0
• A4 is mapped to A1
• A5 is mapped to A2
• A6 is mapped to A3
• Letter is mapped to A4

I think you're right, it looks like when the A0, 1, and 2 sizes were removed in v2 then this list became broken.

>>>"You will also notice, as shown in the screen recording, that when adding a new, differently sized Master page all page sizes are shown in the current document unit, so if the document unit is mm then US page sizes are also shown in mm and likewise when the document unit is inches, ISO 216 page sizes are shown in inches. This differs from the New Document panel..."

I think that makes sense since the document's measurement units default to mm. It might be nice if it showed both (the popup list could show "Letter 8.5x11 in" when document units don't equal inches but it's probably unnecessary, real users wouldn't mix and match measurement units in real life. If I were going to suggest a change to this it would be to remove preset sizes that don't make sense when adding master pages rather than reusing the list. It makes no sense to list double list presets that don't correspond to the document's measurement units in Add Master, nor does it make sense to list both print and press ready sizes. But I assume that's for another day.

[Hangman]

31 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

I think you're right, it looks like when the A0, 1, and 2 sizes were removed in v2 then this list became broken.

That is exactly the issue, I've just been a little surprised that nobody has picked this up and up until now has been able to replicate it...

31 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

"You will also notice, as shown in the screen recording, that when adding a new, differently sized Master page all page sizes are shown in the current document unit, so if the document unit is mm then US page sizes are also shown in mm and likewise when the document unit is inches, ISO 216 page sizes are shown in inches. This differs from the New Document panel..."

Again exactly that... v2 is using all the default page sizes we had available in v1 (see screengrab in the third post) so what we're seeing are the page sizes from A0 to A10 (the defaults in v1) which is why you see the sizes in mm rather than the US inch sizes for the default US page sizes, i.e., clicking down the list the pages sizes, when adding a new master of a different size, start at A0 (841 mm x 1189 mm) going all the way down to A10 (26 mm x 37 mm), i.e., eleven mm page sizes before hitting any US inch page sizes but you're right, all sizes are shown in the default document unit...

This also means if you reorder the presets, the page size shown for the selected page will change because the sizes are still ordered A0 to A10 regardless of the order of the presets shown in the list...

[Dan C]

Hi,

Thanks for the reminder on this, it's now been logged.

Lee

[Hangman]

Hi @Lee_T,

That's perfect, many thanks for logging...

[Hangman]

Could I bump this issue which still causes issues when adding Master Pages v2.5.2...

[woefi]

I'm also seeing this.

Please, @Lee_T fix/bump!