New master picks up column guides from a previous master.

[Charley F]

Example: Master A has document margins only. Master B has column guides (but no margins for test.) Master C is for page numbers only. BUT when I create master C it contains the column guides from B.

Above was a simple test. The document I’m creating has Masters A & B with specific column guides. Master C & D have their own column guides. I create Masters E & F for page numbers only to apply to all pages (left and right). BUT in addition to page numbers E & F pick up the column guides from C & D!

I’m running publisher 2.1.0, I’ve reproduced as noted above.

I’m running Window 10 Pro, Ver 22H2, OS Build 19045.3031, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.19041.1000.0

BenQ monitor and WD external HD.

[walt.farrell]

Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @Charley F.

On 6/7/2023 at 5:29 PM, Charley F said:

Example: Master A has document margins only. Master B has column guides (but no margins for test.) Master C is for page numbers only. BUT when I create master C it contains the column guides from B.

Column Guides on Master Pages do seem to behave oddly. I can confirm the sequence from that example, and I'm not sure why Master C ends up with the Column Guides specified for Master B.

But after that, if I create some document pages using Master A, and the  apply Master B to them (without also clearing Master A) those document pages do not have the Column Guides that Master B has. They only get the Column Guides if I clear the existing Master Pages when applying Master B to the pages, or if I create the pages based on Master B.

[Charley F]

Thanks for diving into this! For now I’m living without page numbers and progressing with my project. Worst case I’ll add the page numbers manually, but then no Table of Contents!? 

[walt.farrell]

4 minutes ago, Charley F said:

Worst case I’ll add the page numbers manually, but then no Table of Contents!? 

You can have a TOC without having the page numbers. But your easier workaround is to simply edit Master C and delete the Column Guides, using View > Guides... and setting the column count to 1.

[Dan C]

Hi Charley F, 

This seems inconsistent across OSX/Windows,  I've escalated this issue as a bug for the dev team to take a look at.

Lee

[Charley F]

Lee,

Thanks!  I've been trying the workaround as previous noted. I was trying to create a master then deleting the column guides. That worked but as I created a new master the margin guides were picked up seemingly at random. Today I was going to look at that again and report back what I saw. Masters A & B were for pages with photo captions (L& R) and C & D pages with photo captions (L & R). What I found was that all master A-D were master A! This is new. The pages that were previously set up retained their original masters. P5 was still master C (the original master C before this random change), page 6 is okay with master A, page 7 okay with original master B, page 8 okay with original master A.

BTW - I started this project with facing pages, but changed to individual pages per my commercial printer's requirements.

 

[Old Bruce]

15 hours ago, Charley F said:

BTW - I started this project with facing pages, but changed to individual pages per my commercial printer's requirements.

Odds are that your printshop wants a PDF with single pages, not the 2 page spreads. This is easily done at the export stage, no need to change from a Facing Pages spread to Single page Spreads. 

[Catshill]

14 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

Odds are that your printshop wants a PDF with single pages, not the 2 page spreads. This is easily done at the export stage, no need to change from a Facing Pages spread to Single page Spreads. 

But unfortunately you will have to remember to do this each time as 1. It’s not saved as part of a preset and 2. It fails to remember the last setting. This is a very annoying bug.

[Charley F]

The book will be either perfect bound or Smyth sewn requiring bleed at the spine. It's easier for me to view this with individual pages as it's not shown as facing pages. Thanks!