Shemja Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Publisher 2.0.4 on Mac. In the master page I cannot unlock two dotted lines. I've tried clicking the lock on the layer and at the top of the layer as well as clicking unlock with right click on the layer and from the menu. Nothing. History says it's unlocking but it's not releasing it. My other locked layers will unlock and relock. They are grouped so I ungrouped them. Nothing. I closed and reopened the file. Nothing. I closed and restarted the program and reopened the file. Still locked. Help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Can you provide a screenshot of the complete application window, including the Layers panel, to help illustrate your problem? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 5, 2023 Author Share Posted May 5, 2023 The dotted lines labeled in the layers panel as Dotted Lines. They will not unlock for anything. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 5, 2023 Share Posted May 5, 2023 Interesting. I haven't seen anything like that before. Can you share the .afpub file with us? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 Here you go. Locked Lines.afpub walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Interesting. I haven't seen anything like that before. Similar @Shemja Did you copy those dotted lines from another document? If not, can you recreate this situation in a new document by repeating what you did in this one? walt.farrell 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 6, 2023 Author Share Posted May 6, 2023 Quote Did you copy those dotted lines from another document? No, and if I copy them into another document the lock is released to function normally. Quote If not, can you recreate this situation in a new document by repeating what you did in this one? No. Long story short, I got around it by copying and pasting the lines into the same document and deleting the locked ones. No problems after that. I just wish I knew what happened so I don't accidentally do the same thing again. Maybe it was a fluke. walt.farrell and carl123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 11 hours ago, Shemja said: I just wish I knew what happened so I don't want to accidentally do the same thing again. Maybe it was a fluke. From my cursory examination one thing stands out. The lines are "dotted" lines, they are made with a Brush. I have no idea what brush. Regardless, that should not affect the locked status problem. Shemja 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 The curves forming the dotted lines can be unlocked either by choosing Layer > Unlock All, or Layer > Geometry > Divide. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted May 6, 2023 Share Posted May 6, 2023 3 hours ago, lacerto said: The curves forming the dotted lines can be unlocked either by choosing Layer > Unlock All, or Layer > Geometry > Divide. Interesting ... but neither should be required to unlock those 2 layers, so there is something very weird going on that prevents a simple click on the Lock icon in the Layers panel from working. Shemja and walt.farrell 2 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.3 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 hours ago, R C-R said: Interesting ... but neither should be required to unlock those 2 layers, so there is something very weird going on that prevents a simple click on the Lock icon in the Layers panel from working. The design is possibly an imported IDML template created for InDesign so the objects involved are not "native" in that sense and their attributes are somehow confused. The affected lines are originally probably true vector brush strokes which are converted to a bitmap based Affinity vector brush. Though this is technically one curve object, its locking resembles that of a group of objects each having an individual locking state which cannot be changed, either, by changing the locking state of the parent object. Applying Unlock All or Divide (or copy pasting) "normalizes" the object and as a side effect corrects the attribute confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 Quote The design is possibly an imported IDML template created for InDesign so the objects involved are not "native" in that sense and their attributes are somehow confused. I made the lines with the pen tool and in the Designer persona applied the "Dashes 1 - Anti-stretch" brush from the Fineliner brush pack out of the Affinity store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, Shemja said: I made the lines with the pen tool and in the Designer persona applied the "Dashes 1 - Anti-stretch" brush from the Fineliner brush pack out of the Affinity store. Thanks. And you created them directly on the Master Page? You didn't create them on the document page first, then copy/paste onto the Master? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, Shemja said: I made the lines with the pen tool and in the Designer persona applied the "Dashes 1 - Anti-stretch" brush from the Fineliner brush pack out of the Affinity store. Ok, thanks, so basically native graphics, then. Perhaps involvement of the brush pack might then explain the attribute confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 7, 2023 Author Share Posted May 7, 2023 Quote And you created them directly on the Master Page? Correct. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Shemja said: Correct. Then it's still unclear what's happening, as that brush does not have that effect when I try it as you described. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.6.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemja Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 I didn't have problems locking and unlocking when making new lines with the same brush, or even copying and pasting these. It's just these particular layers. I'm going to chalk it up to a fluke isolated to these layers and hope it doesn't happen again. Thanks for all the troubleshooting help. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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