bures Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 There is no focus set to 'Close Document' dialogue. It is very annoying that user can not use tab key or cursor arrows (left or right) to select the right button and then press Enter. It should be standard to set focus into the dialogue in that way: Pšenda 1 Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 If you're using the keyboard anyway then Y, N, or C work nicely and require fewer key presses. But I understand your point. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
bures Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 In addition, focus in dialogs and movement using tabs and arrows is standard in other applications. Quote
Pšenda Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 4 hours ago, walt.farrell said: then Y, N, or C work I'll just add that Esc also works. But the absolute standard is for the less "harmful" option to be preselected (focused), and just press Enter. bures 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
Pšenda Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, Red Sands said: With me in 2.0.4, the first button becomes active after two presses of tab, and then the arrow keys work. For me, scrolling also works when I press Tab. But after the third press of the Tab or Arrow key, the focus of the buttons goes away again - which shouldn't happen at all, because the only objects/controls that can be focused should be toggled, and those are only the buttons. So it can be seen that the design (and therefore the behavior) of the dialog window is somewhat "non-standard". Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
carl123 Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Pšenda said: But the absolute standard is for the less "harmful" option to be preselected (focused), and just press Enter The less harmful option would be "Cancel" But Windows always seems to select the "Save" option E.g. Notepad on Windows 11 bures 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
Pšenda Posted February 22, 2023 Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, carl123 said: The less harmful option would be "Cancel" Which of the options is less harmful is a matter of opinion - I favor the Save option. The point is that the user requested to close the modified file. So the harmful thing is that the close is completed without saving, so the user loses his work. If Cancel is executed, the edits are not lost (but it wasn't even saved, so the risk of data loss still remains), and the user's primary command to close the file is not executed. In the case of Save, the file is saved so that the edits are not lost, and the primary command to close the file is executed - in my opinion, the least harmful/intrusive operation. Edited February 22, 2023 by Pšenda bures 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
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