jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I'm using AD V1 text boxes. Is there a way to make a 'soft' Return to create a new line of text rather than 'Retiurn' which produces my paragraph spacing? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 18 minutes ago, jackamus said: I'm using AD V1 text boxes. Is there a way to make a 'soft' Return to create a new line of text rather than 'Retiurn' which produces my paragraph spacing? Did you never looked at the keyboard shorcuts for text handling? - See ... Keyboard shortcuts ... aka ... Quote Text shortcuts ... Action (Special characters) Key Line Break Shift-Enter Non-Breaking Space Option-Spacebar Non-Breaking Hyphen Option-Cmd - En Dash Option - Em Dash Option-Shift - Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 46 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Did you never looked at the keyboard shorcuts for text handling? - See ... Keyboard shortcuts ... aka ... Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 Sorry Guys but Shift+Enter does not work in AD V1. Is this a bug? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, jackamus said: Sorry Guys but Shift+Enter does not work in AD V1. Is this a bug? Is it shown as the shortcut for you in the menu? Text > Insert Character > Line Break? If not, does the shortcut shown there work? Does using the menu work? And, what do you mean by "does not work"? What does it do, if anything? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_d Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 53 minutes ago, jackamus said: Shift+Enter does not work in AD V1. Is this a bug? Shift + Return (as opposed to Enter) applies a soft return for me in both Frame Text and Artistic Text in Affinity Designer 1.10.6 on macOS Ventura. So I don't believe it's a bug. My laptop keyboard doesn't have an Enter key: if you have a full-size keyboard with an Enter key to the right of the number pad, then the shortcut may not work. Have you tried holding down Shift and pressing the main Return key while Shift is still held down? Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 My Mac keyboard doers not have a separate Return and Enter. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 59 minutes ago, jackamus said: Sorry Guys but Shift+Enter does not work in AD V1. Is this a bug? On a typical Mac keyboard pressing Shift together with the main keyboard's layout Return/Enter key should usually do it (as far as you've not reassigned that key combo). Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, jackamus said: My Mac keyboard doers not have a separate Return and Enter. Look under "Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts" if you maybe have redefined that key combo or if it is setup at all there. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 58 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Is it shown as the shortcut for you in the menu? Text > Insert Character > Line Break? If not, does the shortcut shown there work? Does using the menu work? And, what do you mean by "does not work"? What does it do, if anything? What menu are you referring to Walt? By does not work I mean when I press SHIFT + ENTER it only gives me a paragraph break and not a line break. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, v_kyr said: On a typical Mac keyboard pressing Shift together with the main keyboard's layout Return/Enter key should usually do it (as far as you've not reassigned that key combo). In my case it doesn't. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, jackamus said: What menu are you referring to Walt? The Text menu, as I stated: Text > Insert Character > Line Break. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, v_kyr said: Look under "Preferences -> Keyboard shortcuts" if you maybe have redefined that key combo or if it is setup at all there. Here is a screen shot of my Preferences. It shows SHIFT + ENTER selected. Line break.afdesign Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: The Text menu, as I stated: Text > Insert Character > Line Break. That's what I thought but the Insert Character menu is greyed out. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 The submenu get's activated (not greyed out) if you have one of the text tools and a text layer selected ... Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h_d Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Can't help much more with your problem but I, Robot (note the comma) is by Isaac Asimov not Arthur C Clarke. Alfred 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5.3, Affinity Designer 2.5.3, Affinity Publisher 2.5.3, Mac OSX 14.5, 2018 MacBook Pro 15" Intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 2 hours ago, jackamus said: I'm using AD V1 text boxes. Is there a way to make a 'soft' Return to create a new line of text rather than 'Retiurn' which produces my paragraph spacing? What sort of "paragraph spacing" are you using? For me the defaults in a pair of Art Text Text Frames are the same for a new line and a new paragraph. There is a Shift + Return on the left and a Return on the Right. You can see it in the Designer version one Document that I opened in Publisher with the Show Special Characters turned on. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, jackamus said: That's what I thought but the Insert Character menu is greyed out. That sounds like you do not have the cursor properly positioned within a Text object. v_kyr 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Here's a short screen recording, showing Shift-Return for FrameText, where pressing the Shift-Return key combo in this recording is then shown up as an filled oval only ... screencast2.mp4 For Artistic Text, it's as @Old Bruce already said, aka it doesn't make any difference to using a usual Return here then! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackamus Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, v_kyr said: The submenu get's activated (not greyed out) if you have one of the text tools and a text layer selected ... Gotcha! Thanks all you guys for your help. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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