GuyMiklos Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 In the Text Styles panel, both heading1 and CrossReference have multiple sub-styles, but medium grey on medium green makes the disclosure triangle symbol almost invisible. How many people reading this post think this colour combination shows users that there are sub-styles that aren't visible? Quote MacBook Pro, Retina, mid-2015, macOS Monteray, RAM: 16 GB, CPU Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 2,8 GHz. Monitor: 27" (3840 × 2160) DELL U2723QE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eluengo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Light interface… less rethinked ergonomically is better a light than a dark interface.... but the dark interfaces are trendy 🤷♂️ Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 9 hours ago, GuyMiklos said: medium grey on medium green makes the disclosure triangle symbol almost invisible Which OS version? I don't see this on Catalina. Also, since years I'm using a very specific global highlight color which turned out to work pretty well with positive, negative and with gray text: Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 The OP's footer states he is using Monterrey and it's the same in Ventura which has the same design. Catalina has a chunkier disclosure triangle that's easier to see. I agree with the OP. The problem is that the disclosure triangle is so delicate in newer versions of macOS that it's important there be sufficient contrast. Although Affinity uses the system accent colour, the light grey of the disclosure triangle is barely visible on some of the accent colours. For example, it's quite difficult to see the disclosure triangle set against what Apple calls purple. The contrast is better in dark mode for all accent colours, but weak for a few colours in light mode. Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, MikeTO said: The OP's footer states he is using Monterrey I see. I have user footers/signatures turned off. (And definitely no plans to change that setting… ) 3 hours ago, MikeTO said: weak […] in light mode. Sadly, the Light UI is definitely Serif's step child. The UI designers (if any?) must truly hate it, as it seems. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted January 23, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 23, 2023 Hi @GuyMiklos, Thanks for your report and our sincerest apologies for the delayed response here. We are exceptionally busy following the release of V2 and we thank you for your continued patience and understanding here. I have checked this on Ventura 13.1 using 2.0.3 and a green highlight colour - when selecting this menu item, the arrow changes from grey to white, meaning it contrasts well against the green for me: Do you find this behaviour now matches mine above, or are you still finding the arrow remains a dark grey and hard to see? (if so, what exact version of macOS is in use please?) Many thanks in advance! Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Dan C said: I have checked this on Ventura 13.1 using 2.0.3 and a green highlight colour - when selecting this menu item, the arrow changes from grey to white, meaning it contrasts well against the green for me: Do you find this behaviour now matches mine above, or are you still finding the arrow remains a dark grey and hard to see? (if so, what exact version of macOS is in use please?) That's not what I'm seeing with macOS 13.1. You're getting a light disclosure triangle on green whereas I'm getting a medium one. What you're seeing is what I'd expect to see in light mode. Quote Download a free manual for Publisher 2.4 from this forum - expanded 300-page PDF My system: Affinity 2.4.2 for macOS Sonoma 14.4.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M1 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted January 23, 2023 Staff Share Posted January 23, 2023 I believe I've discovered trigger for this difference, if you have the Text Styles studio detached from the studios in a floating window and click the style, the arrow turns white - if you then leave this style selection active and select the canvas/a layer, the arrow returns to grey. If the Studio is docked with other studios on the right, the white arrow only remains for as long as you hold left click on the required style. I'll get these logged with our devs now, thanks again MikeTO, woefi and loukash 1 2 Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woefi Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan C said: I'll get these logged with our devs now, thanks again Thank You! But I have to say it: There are (and were) several UI discrepancies related to docked vs undocked, light vs dark UI. Missing (but not really missing, just hardcoded white colored) icons, ... Please try to test this more on your end, maybe build some automated test suite for these circumstances. Quote Main machine: iMac 2019 (21,5-inch 4k, 6core), 64GB RAM, 1TB nvme + 2TB ssd, running on Mac OS 13; Display setup: 28" 5k Display (primary) + 21,5" iMac4k-Display for studio panels (secondary); Keyboard layout: german apple extended keyboard (aluminium); Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Dan C said: if you have the Text Styles studio detached from the studios in a floating window and click the style, the arrow turns white Same on Catalina with the triangle. Dan C 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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