Selecting artistic text object with empty rows

[PPPeter]

If an artistic text object has empty lines at the end the bounding box only shows the visible part. The same goes for v1 but in v2 the invisible part can overlap other objects.

[NathanC]

Hi @PPPeter,

I've now logged this with the development team for resolution.

[4dimage]

This is how this similar artistic text error looks like in Publisher. In contrast to frame text with artistic text the content should never exceed the bounding box.

 

If i convert the art text to frame text the textframe automatically expands to include the last line

[PPPeter]

Not fixed in 2.1.0 😔

[NathanC]

11 minutes ago, PPPeter said:

Not fixed in 2.1.0 😔

Sorry it's taken me some time to come back to this, i've just checked up on the logged issue and it's been determined as by design, Artistic text bounding boxes are only intended to cover visible text and will not include any non-visible characters such as spaces/line breaks. For example, the shape of the bounding box will change to cover descenders whereas a standard text frame's bounding box will not. 

[PPPeter]

On 5/24/2023 at 9:09 AM, NathanC said:

Sorry it's taken me some time to come back to this, i've just checked up on the logged issue and it's been determined as by design, Artistic text bounding boxes are only intended to cover visible text and will not include any non-visible characters such as spaces/line breaks. For example, the shape of the bounding box will change to cover descenders whereas a standard text frame's bounding box will not. 

I don't know if you misunderstood the topic but the problem is not the bounding box only showing the visible text, have a look at the video again. The problem is that it acts like the invisible rows are there, the invisible part can cover underlaying objects. If you click the invisible part of the bounding box the box get selected. It can surely not be by design that if you click a random space in your design that accidently is covered by some invisible, non-predictable object is selected instead? It is only text that has this behaviour but if it would be by design this would also apply to objects cropped by a rectangle for example, no?

[walt.farrell]

3 hours ago, PPPeter said:

If you click the invisible part of the bounding box the box get selected. It can surely not be by design that if you click a random space in your design that accidently is covered by some invisible, non-predictable object is selected instead?

How is that any different than putting an unfilled rectangle (or a rectangle with a 0% opacity fill) over other objects on the page, then trying to click on one of the covered objects to select it? The first click will select the top object (the invisible rectangle). To select an object under it you need to use a Ctrl+Click or other method to navigate down in the layer z-order, as described in the Help: https://affinity.help/designer2/en-US.lproj/pages/ObjectControl/select.html

[PPPeter]

On 5/29/2023 at 1:22 PM, walt.farrell said:

How is that any different than putting an unfilled rectangle (or a rectangle with a 0% opacity fill) over other objects on the page, then trying to click on one of the covered objects to select it? The first click will select the top object (the invisible rectangle). To select an object under it you need to use a Ctrl+Click or other method to navigate down in the layer z-order, as described in the Help: https://affinity.help/designer2/en-US.lproj/pages/ObjectControl/select.html

I would say it's a big difference since the invisible, clickable, area extends outside the bounding box. If you have a 0 opacity rectangle the bounding box would show exactly where the rectangle is. In the text box the invisible area is totally unpredictable.

This error was introduced in v.2 and I have a hard time thinking it is by design since it's not consistent with how other contained objects work.

[Old Bruce]

10 hours ago, PPPeter said:

This error was introduced in v.2 and I have a hard time thinking it is by design since it's not consistent with how other contained objects work.

As a work around I use the Move tool and Click Drag to select the 'un-clickable' text frame.