Garret Rain Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Version 1.10.5.1342 When exporting (File>Export) Designer will crash about one out of 10 times. The crash will sometimes take place when changing the JPG Quality slider other times when in the process of exporting. Often the crash will be Designer. On occasion, Windows (11) will crash - get the blue screen of death. In one Windows crash received the System Service Exception file: win32kbase.sys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Garret Rain said: On occasion, Windows (11) will crash - get the blue screen of death. In one Windows crash received the System Service Exception file: win32kbase.sys. The Affinity applications run as user-level applications, and should not be able to cause Windows itself to crash. That would require errors in kernel-level applications, such as GPU drivers. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 I only and ever see the blue screen of death when using Designer and only when exporting in Designer - more than a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted October 18, 2022 Staff Share Posted October 18, 2022 Hi @Garret Rain, This would only indicate that Designer is attempting to use/access specific system files that other applications may not use - Walt is correct above in the statement that Affinity cannot cause BSODs on Windows. 17 hours ago, Garret Rain said: System Service Exception file: win32kbase.sys. From a Google Search, this usually indicates System File corruption, so I would recommend following the suggestions below - https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/win32kbase-sys-blue-screen-error-fixed/ I hope this clears things up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 In addition to the advice above, to which type of storage did you last export from Designer? Local hard drive, network storage, cloud service, etc? If the storage ‘location’ no longer ‘exists’ – e.g. disconnected NAS, etc. – then that could cause a problem if Designer is trying to access something which isn’t there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 Dan C, I did the recommended services. No errors found. Also, we are missing half the point. The blue screen is the occasional event on Designer export, but Designer crashing. GarryP, I am exporting to the same drive where my program files are C-Drive. Thank you, Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted October 18, 2022 Staff Share Posted October 18, 2022 Thanks for confirming that for me - it's very likely the crashing in Designer upon export is caused by the same issue that triggers the BSOD, but we can certainly double check for you. Firstly, can you please open Windows Run (Windows Key + R) then paste the following string and press OK: %AppData%\Affinity\Designer\1.0\CrashReports\reports In the window that opens, please select the 3 most recently created .DMP files, then upload these to your reply here. Secondly, we're aware of the latest Windows updates causing crashing in WPF apps, including Affinity - please check the following FAQ for more information and steps on how to remove this update to stop the crashing - Many thanks in advance! Garret Rain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 DanC, Than you. I attached the 81f497de-1a39-4cb4-a257-0f09f198d106.dmpfile with the change date of 9/27/22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 DanC, I had crashes (several) yesterday. So, not sure why the file date is not current. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 20 minutes ago, Garret Rain said: So, not sure why the file date is not current. Crashes don't always produce crash reports, unfortunately. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 18, 2022 Author Share Posted October 18, 2022 The Windows crashes tend to follow this Designer exportation pattern. I am working on marking up photos in Designer. The process will be working fine and then Designer will crash on an export. I will reopen Designer and get back to work. Then after an export or two Designer will crash. This will happen a time or two more and then Windows will crash with the blue screen. The blue screen will take some time to close noting it is gathering/saving a crash report. But alas, this must not be true... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted October 19, 2022 Staff Share Posted October 19, 2022 Many thanks for providing this crash report for me! I can see the Affinity app is crashing whilst rendering, which may indicate an issue with your GPU drivers, and this could also explain the BSODs you are seeing. I'd recommend fully removing all installed GPU drivers using DDU (https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html) then installing a newly downloaded version of your GPU drivers, directly from your manufacture. Can you also please open the Affinity app and navigate to Edit > Preferences > Performance and provide a screenshot of your settings here for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 Dan C, Many thanks. Here are the screen shots. I will follow the GPU driver advice in a bit. Waiting to join a Zoom meeting. Thank you again. Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted October 20, 2022 Staff Share Posted October 20, 2022 Thanks for providing these for me! I'd recommend unticking Hardware Acceleration in the Preferences dialog, as well as removing and reinstalling your GPU drivers, then try exporting once again - does this stop the crashing behaviour please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Dan C. Here are the dump files you requested. I crashed on me again today, but not with the blue screen. Now, I had not been using this process on this PC. But when I did today, Designer took a dump. Also, I followed all of the previous direction on un-installing and then re-installing the AMD video drivers. I see the note on the Hardware Acceleration, I will untick it. Thank you! Garret b85dbfc7-1cee-4cd6-a470-4ded9c5e35ec.dmp 81f497de-1a39-4cb4-a257-0f09f198d106.dmp fac5dcd8-5849-4515-9322-f8dddf7d6759.dmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Dan C. I unchecked/ticked (for those in the UK) Hardware Acceleration and did a test. When doing a JPG export and slide the % of resolution down from 100% Designer crashed. Good try, but not the issue. Thank you, Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 All, Here is a strange note. If I export from Affinity Photo there are no issues. This issue only presents in Designer. Thank you, Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 Dan C. I looked at the post ( ) RE: the removal of Windows updates. Looking down the list of "suspect" updates I compared with my Win 11 update history and found no matches. Screen shot attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Garret Rain said: Looking down the list of "suspect" updates I compared with my Win 11 update history and found no matches. You have at least this one "KB5018546", which is on the list Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Carl123, Thank you, uninstalling now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 All, I removed update "KB5018546" did a reboot and ran a test. In the text Designer crashed when moving the JPG resolution slider. Thank you, Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I guess you can try a CTRL runup, which means keep the CTRL key held down then start Affinity Designer. In the dialogue that appears keep the first 3 selected and also select "Reset File Export Presets" then click the Clear button Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Carl123, Gave the reset file export presets a try. Did the export test and Designer crashed on moving the JPG quality slider. Thank you, Garret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted November 2, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 2, 2022 Apologies for the delayed response here @Garret Rain - I've double checked your crash reports provided and these all appear to be crashing within the AMD drivers for your GPU. I appreciate you have installed the latest drivers already, so I'd like to try removing all GPU drivers currently installed, then re-installing the latest AMD driver only, so that you have a 'clean installation'. You can do this easily using 'DDU', found here - https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html Once removed, install the AMD driver once more, restart your system and try in Designer once again. If this doesn't resolve the crashing, please check your Crash Reports folder and attach any new logs generated here. Many thanks once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garret Rain Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 Dan C, Thank you. I followed the guidance. The GPU drivers were removed and new AMD drivers were reinstalled. I did my export to JPG test and this time Designer crashed upon clicking File>Export. Today's crash file is attached. Garret. 0294695f-0e69-499d-a7b5-3b06b7026ea6.dmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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