Dazmondo77 Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Just got a job on where I need to copy and paste from Affinity to Illustrator CS5 for vector distortions and simplify path, but have noticed that there's a colour shift once pasted into illustrator using the same CMYK profile (FOGRA 27) this has always worked great before, copying and pasting back and fourth retaining colours perfectly so looks like a bug with 1.9.1 Pasting back into Affinity from Illustrator works as expected (no colour shift) so looks to me like the Affinity clipboard as reverted to copying and pasting RGB for external Apps (bad news for a CMYK workflow) I've tried switching on and off the copy items as SVG which makes no difference, even fired up Designer 1.3.2 which works perfectly copying and pasting back and fourth see screen grabs As a temp workaround I'm exporting PDFs from Affinity which open correct in Illustrator and copy paste back to Designer correct loukash 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 Also same in Publisher Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 Also same in 1.9.2 beta Dazmondo77 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 9 hours ago, loukash said: Also same in 1.9.2 beta I've downloaded, and was just about to try 1.9.2 beta to test this - Thanks Loukash Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 I just had a look at the MacOS clipboard. This is C, M, Y, K, W rectangles with SVG clipboard enabled: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?> <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN" "http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd"> <svg width="100%" height="100%" viewBox="0 0 1607 284" version="1.1" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" xml:space="preserve" xmlns:serif="http://www.serif.com/" style="fill-rule:evenodd;clip-rule:evenodd;stroke-linejoin:round;stroke-miterlimit:2;"> <g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,-141.732,-141.732)"> <rect x="141.732" y="141.732" width="283.465" height="283.465" style="fill:rgb(0,174,239);"/> <g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,330.709,0)"> <rect x="141.732" y="141.732" width="283.465" height="283.465" style="fill:rgb(236,0,140);"/> </g> <g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,661.417,0)"> <rect x="141.732" y="141.732" width="283.465" height="283.465" style="fill:rgb(255,242,0);"/> </g> <g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,992.126,0)"> <rect x="141.732" y="141.732" width="283.465" height="283.465" style="fill:rgb(35,31,32);"/> </g> <g transform="matrix(1,0,0,1,1322.83,0)"> <rect x="141.732" y="141.732" width="283.465" height="283.465" style="fill:white;"/> </g> </g> </svg> All in a CMYK document, of course. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Also same in 1.8.4 (still installed on my 2008 MBP in El Capitan). Also same when copying text to InDesign as text. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Dazmondo77 said: exporting PDFs from Affinity which open correct in Illustrator Yes, that works, as long as your objects are either fills or strokes. PDF export separates fills from strokes. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted March 19, 2021 Staff Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 12:21 PM, Dazmondo77 said: Just got a job on where I need to copy and paste from Affinity to Illustrator CS5 for vector distortions and simplify path, but have noticed that there's a colour shift once pasted into illustrator using the same CMYK profile (FOGRA 27) this has always worked great before, copying and pasting back and fourth retaining colours perfectly so looks like a bug with 1.9.1 Pasting back into Affinity from Illustrator works as expected (no colour shift) so looks to me like the Affinity clipboard as reverted to copying and pasting RGB for external Apps (bad news for a CMYK workflow) I've tried switching on and off the copy items as SVG which makes no difference, even fired up Designer 1.3.2 which works perfectly copying and pasting back and fourth see screen grabs As a temp workaround I'm exporting PDFs from Affinity which open correct in Illustrator and copy paste back to Designer correct Ha! That's some retro versions you've got going there! I don't think I've got a build local to me that old! As Loukash points out that the SVG added to the clipboard is getting output with RGB values, I've looked at the PDF that gets added as well and that is also going out as RGB, so that would certainly explain why the colours are incorrect. I'll get it passed on to development, and see when exactly it broke! Thanks for letting us know! loukash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Sean P Posted March 19, 2021 Staff Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just to add this is something that we do already have logged, and also affected 1.8 as well. I'll get it bumped! Cheers, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean P said: Ha! That's some retro versions you've got going there! I don't think I've got a build local to me that old! Yes Sean P - I thought I had an even older 1.1.x - I remember the splash screen with the original logo with the marker and technical pen - but must have replaced when updating from the app store - I get really nostalgic with old splash screen and really wish I'd have made screen grabs from all past versions - just have an old Mavericks bootable backup and found 1.3.2 and was surprised that it works great in Mojave 👍 Tom Lachecki 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sean P said: That's some retro versions you've got going there! I don't think I've got a build local to me that old! 17 minutes ago, Dazmondo77 said: just have an old Mavericks bootable backup My archive of Time Machine backup sparseimages for this Mac goes as far back as August 2014, so guess what's in the /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/my_mac_name/2014-10-13-041421 Application folder: Dazmondo77, Patrick Connor and sbe 2 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 And yet, six and a half year later, I'm still pulling my long but increasingly scarce hair out from the same issues like unexpected and unwanted color conversion over and over again… Oh well. Patrick Connor and Dazmondo77 1 1 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 19, 2021 Author Share Posted March 19, 2021 48 minutes ago, loukash said: so guess what's in the /Volumes/Time Machine Backups/Backups.backupdb/my_mac_name/2014-10-13-041421 Application folder: ACE - I vaguely remember trying out what I think was a pre-release and not having much time to mess around with it as I was just about to jet off on holidays, but within five minutes I thought it was a must have purchase, by the time I'd got back from hols it had been released so I purchased straight away 50 minutes ago, loukash said: And yet, six and a half year later, I'm still pulling my long but increasingly scarce hair out from the same issues like unexpected and unwanted color conversion over and over again… Oh well. I remember having loads of problems with all that stuff with colour profiles in Affinity early on and was screaming for 'select same' (we finally got it YAY!) back then as I was used to Adobe setup once and no more worries - Kind of got a usable workflow together after a couple of years - but I'm still a bit paranoid, so triple check everything, so still have an essential reliance on Acrobat 9 for pre press checks before sending a job off ----- Oh well.🙂 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just updated all Affinity to 1.9.2 with fingers crossed that this very annoying bug had been put back to normal (losing CMYK and defaulting to RGB) and it's not --- DAMN --- so frustrating that I have to copy and paste to Illustrator and VectorStyler for essential edits (mainly vector distortions and simplify paths), I'd love to crack on and get the job done in Affinity but just can't as these basics have yet to be added - I've been using the copy and paste to illustrator and back for the past four years which has worked great (as a workaround) but it's just getting me down that the clipboard is now broke and can no longer handle CMYK which is essential to my workflow even VectorStyler does this - oh well!?!?!?!?!? Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 43 minutes ago, Dazmondo77 said: Just updated all Affinity to 1.9.2 with fingers crossed that this very annoying bug had been put back to normal It wasn't fixed during the 1.9.2 beta cycle so I didn't even expect it to be "magically" fixed with the final release today. But hey, the 1.9.3 beta cycle likely begins today, so let's see if @Sean P's bump has had any effect… Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 Yesterday I had a top moan about this as I currently have two jobs on where I have to copy paste between Pub and Illustrator for tidyup distortions and because of the colour swap bug I got a bit 'mardy' as we say here in Derby / Nottingham - so I came across as an ungrateful git - so I'd like to apologise to the Devs and Moderators as I know we now have a decent stable release that is miles ahead the original 1.9 release --- Sorry 😔 16 hours ago, loukash said: But hey, the 1.9.3 beta cycle likely begins today, so let's see if @Sean P's bump has had any effect… Yes ------ feeling positive now Patrick Connor 1 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted April 13, 2021 Author Share Posted April 13, 2021 Just downloaded and fired up 1.9.3 and still not back to normal - DAMN! Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 Of course not. The 1.9.3. bugfix list is short because likely urgent, as is often the case with memory leaks. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 But hey, the 1.9.4 beta cycle likely begins as we speak. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted April 14, 2021 Author Share Posted April 14, 2021 13 hours ago, loukash said: But hey, the 1.9.4 beta cycle likely begins as we speak. 😐 I'm just coming to the end of a job where getting this ability back would make a difference...... Oh Well!?!?! On 3/19/2021 at 3:14 PM, Sean P said: Just to add this is something that we do already have logged, and also affected 1.8 as well. I'll get it bumped! Blimey - it doesn't seem like that long ago I was working on the last children's book, where everything worked great, as there where distortions on every page - must have been 1.7? Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted April 26, 2021 Author Share Posted April 26, 2021 Just tested copy paste cmyk with APhoto Beta 1.9.4.241 - still broke when pasted to Illustrator and VectorStyler for essential edits - this used to work great and now only RGB 😡 Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 Just tested in Pub Beta 1.9.4.1076 ---- still broke Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted June 13, 2021 Author Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just tested in Designer Beta 1.10.0.1 ---- still broke Also tested in Photo Beta 1.10.0.244 ---- still broke Oh well fingers crossed for next beta??? Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted June 15, 2021 Author Share Posted June 15, 2021 Disappointed to report ------ Publisher Beta 1.10.0.1085 ---- still broke Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazmondo77 Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 Just tested in Pub Beta 1.10.0.1098 ---- still broke Quote Mac Pro Cheese-grater (Early 2009) 2.93 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon 48 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 ECC Ram, Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 580 8GB GDDR5, Ugee 19" Graphics Tablet Monitor Triple boot via OCLP 1.2.1 - Mac OS Monterey 12.7.1, Sonoma 14.1.1 and Mojave 10.14.6 Affinity Publisher, Designer and Photo 1.10.5 - 2.2.1 www.bingercreative.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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