Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Hello Affinity users. I bought Affinity Photo yesterday on discount, have read many positive thing about it, not familiar with the user interface, have pixelmator and photos om Mac. When i am opening a photo or drag a photo to Affinity the file size is dropping from about 23mp to around 6-8 mp, and it is not accepting raw files, do not open i raw persona?, Apple Pro raw in this case, am i doing anything wrong, any thoughts? Thanks for help, have a nice day. Edited January 23, 2021 by Casper8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Rostron Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Hello @Casper8and welome to the forums. When you say the file size is dropping from 23mp (megaixels) to 6-8p, how are you getting this file size? Where are these numbers coming from? How are you attempting to open your raw files? File > Open or drag-and-drop or clicking on the raw file icon? John Quote Windows 11, Affinity Photo 2.4.2 Designer 2.4.2 and Publisher 2.4.2 (mainly Photo). CPU: Intel Core i5 8500 @ 3.00GHz. RAM: 32.0GB DDR4 @ 1063MHz, Graphics: 2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Casper8 said: I bought Affinity Photo yesterday […] not familiar with the user interface Then this is likely the best place to start:https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/tutorials/photo/desktop Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 30 minutes ago, loukash said: Then this is likely the best place to start:https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/tutorials/photo/desktop Thanks, seen them, not solved tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (never mind) Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, John Rostron said: Hello @Casper8and welome to the forums. When you say the file size is dropping from 23mp (megaixels) to 6-8p, how are you getting this file size? Where are these numbers coming from? How are you attempting to open your raw files? File > Open or drag-and-drop or clicking on the raw file icon? John Thank you all for the support. The 23,3 MB is Photo app on Mac, the other is open from photos to Affinity. It should open raw personas automatic? No difference if i drag or open the photo. It looks like ProRaw is not supported Edited January 23, 2021 by Casper8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Casper8 said: The 23,3 MB is Photo app on Mac, the other is open from photos to Affinity. It should open raw personas automatic? It will only open in the Develop Persona automatically if you open a raw photo. From the size difference, and the use of the Photo Persona rather than the Develop Persona, I suspect that Photos is sending a TIFF version of the file, not the raw version of the file, to Affinity Photo. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: It will only open in the Develop Persona automatically if you open a raw photo. From the size difference, and the use of the Photo Persona rather than the Develop Persona, I suspect that Photos is sending a TIFF version of the file, not the raw version of the file, to Affinity Photo. Thanks, but shouldn't it open then when i drag a raw photo from the mac app? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just now, Casper8 said: Thanks, but shouldn't it open then when i drag a raw photo from the mac app? If you drag it from the Mac Finder, yes. From other Mac Apps, perhaps it wouldn't. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: If you drag it from the Mac Finder, yes. From other Mac Apps, perhaps it wouldn't. Interesting, when i look it up in finder it says jpg at the end, and the file is only 2,5 mb. But the photo app says DNG Edited January 23, 2021 by Casper8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 That is interesting. Someone who knows more about MacOS may have more info about that. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 12 hours ago, Casper8 said: When i am opening a photo or drag a photo to Affinity the file size is dropping from about 23mp to around 6-8 mp, 1 hour ago, Casper8 said: The 23,3 MB is Photo app on Mac, the other is open from photos to Affinity. Maybe I didn't understand your question well, but in the case of the file size it is 25.3 MB (mega bytes), see the screenshot from Photo app, while in the second case it is the image size, ie 9.14 MP (mega pixels), see the screenshot from APhoto, which has nothing to do with the size of the file itself. John Rostron 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Maybe I didn't understand your question well, but in the case of the file size it is 25.3 MB (mega bytes), see the screenshot from Photo app, while in the second case it is the image size, ie 9.14 MP (mega pixels), see the screenshot from APhoto, which has nothing to do with the size of the file itself. Thanks, but why will it not open in raw persona and where can i se the 23mb size information? Edited January 23, 2021 by Casper8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Casper8 said: and where can i se the 23mb size information? You mean 25.3 MB from your screenshot? 12 hours ago, Casper8 said: It looks like ProRaw is not supported Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 24, 2021 Author Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Pšenda said: You mean 25.3 MB from your screenshot? Thanks, yes that MB. Waiting for update then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixx Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I think if you try to export or drag image from Apple Photo it exports a developed version. If you want to export RAW as it is there should be a different command for it. I do not use Apple Photo so I cannot check this. Affinity Photo does not show file size, except an estimate in export dialog. File size depends a lot about file format (which includes compression settings etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casper8 Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Fixx said: I think if you try to export or drag image from Apple Photo it exports a developed version. If you want to export RAW as it is there should be a different command for it. I do not use Apple Photo so I cannot check this. Affinity Photo does not show file size, except an estimate in export dialog. File size depends a lot about file format (which includes compression settings etc). Thanks for input on the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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