jmwellborn Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Well, here I am in the Bugs section. I have tried in two other areas of these forums (Publisher suggestions, and in the general customer comments) and have been told that I am just confused. But now with evidence from the most recent postings in the Suggestions section, I have apparently found a bug. My scroll bars have disappeared entirely from Photo and Designer (never were there in Designer) and have vanished from Publisher v. 174 unless I add multiple pages in the Pages panel, whether I want them or not. A single page document refuses to include scroll bars. Can I be the only person who had this happen? 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.5.5. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted November 26, 2018 Author Share Posted November 26, 2018 I have just spent some time with Apple technical support. We now have the definitive answer. Which is disappointing, but an answer. There is nothing amiss with my Apple Preferences. But this scroll bar thing is also not a bug. Apparently it is a design choice that these scroll bars won't show up in any of the three Affinity apps unless one magnifies the screen or -- in Publisher's case -- if one adds more than one blank page to a document, whether needed or not. This may be fine for design and photography work, where magnification to a particular spot is desired, but when entering text on a single page it is a pain in the neck to have to toggle between the hand tool and the text tool to head up and down in order to add or delete a word or phrase, or to decide precisely where to place an image with text wrap. Writing books and creating designs are so different. Apple also suggested (and what I have previously asked) that I might ask that an option be provided in the VIEW menu for Show Scroll Bars which could then keep them on, no matter what the zoom size of a single page. Sorry to be such a pain! 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.5.5. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fde101 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 4 hours ago, jmwellborn said: Sorry to be such a pain! I'll join you in being a pain about this one... Scroll bars should always be present in document windows on a computer. For Apple to let us disable that was kind of silly, and hiding them by default is unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 1 hour ago, fde101 said: I'll join you in being a pain about this one... Scroll bars should always be present in document windows on a computer. For Apple to let us disable that was kind of silly, and hiding them by default is unfortunate. Apple used to make sensible decisions about the user interface, I think they got too caught up in change for change's sake several years ago. And we pay the price. [world weary sigh emoticon] Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_K Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 The scroll bars depend on the document zoom and also the option you have set int he mac general preferences . This has always been the case with the app and is not new to these versions. This is currently working as expected Serif Europe Ltd - Check the latest news at www.affinity.serif.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmwellborn Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 11:40 AM, Chris_K said: The scroll bars depend on the document zoom and also the option you have set int he mac general preferences . This has always been the case with the app and is not new to these versions. This is currently working as expected Thank you. With the MAC general preferences set at ALWAYS I have now found that the workaround is to open a single page document, hit Z and then with the zoom tool click into the document window. The window gets a bit larger (which is most assuredly not a problem when looking at 11 pt type!) and the scroll bars magically appear. Then it is onward and upward with your beautiful Publisher! Thank you again. So glad that I am the dolt, and that Publisher is the brains behind my operation. 24" iMAC Apple M1 chip, 8-core CPU, 8-core GPU, 16 GB unified memory, 1 TB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Photo, Publisher, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.5.5. MacBook Pro 13" 2020, Apple M1 chip, 16GB unified memory, 256GB SSD storage, Ventura 13.6.7. Publisher, Photo, Designer 1.10.5, and 2.1.1. iPad Pro 12.9 2020 (4th Gen. IOS 16.6.1); Apple pencil. Wired and bluetooth mice and keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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