Change layout options / Document Setup / Whole Document not taking

[Twolane]

I want to add one line at the bottom of each master. I go through the procedure. The Master Pages show with the change. The document page frames all have the modification. The text frames did not make the change, and I must go through the document clicking on each page and dragging it down one line on the baseline grid. For every page.

I don't have images. It's all text.

And yes, I've read it all in Mike's guide. Even the margins.

Deleting all Masters and Reapplying the Master doesn't work to adjust it either.

[R C-R]

7 hours ago, Twolane said:

I want to add one line at the bottom of each master.

What exactly do you mean by "one line"? If you mean one line of text (space?) how would the app know what point size, leading, vertical spacing, etc. you would be using?

[thomaso]

8 hours ago, Twolane said:

The Master Pages show with the change. The document page frames all have the modification. The text frames did not make the change

This is ambiguous what you did, what you got and what you want. (e.g., what are "page frames" as opposed to "text frames" ?)

Perhaps you changed on the master pages the page margins only, while the text frames aren't on master pages but on document pages. To change objects that aren't on master pages you need to select + modify them separately from the master.

Still without knowing your layout: If you need to select all (story) text frames, you could …

–> zoom out to display all spreads in the main window,
–> then drag-select with the Move Tool all text frames that should get modified,
–> activate the option "Transform Objects Separately" in the Context Toolbar,
–> and set the wanted text frame height in the Transform Panel.

Alternatively to drag-select, if you want to modify every text frame in the entire document, an easier way to select them may be via menu "Select".

[Old Bruce]

8 hours ago, Twolane said:

I want to add one line at the bottom of each master. I go through the procedure. The Master Pages show with the change. The document page frames all have the modification. The text frames did not make the change, and I must go through the document clicking on each page and dragging it down one line on the baseline grid. For every page.

Are you in fact using the Master Pages' text frames? This sounds as though you have made text frames on the Actual pages and placed your text in those. Check your Layers panel an look for a Text frame above the Master Page.

[Twolane]

I select Whole Document to make the margin change. It makes the change. The Frame Text doesn't change, so I adjust it manually for both Master Pages. The modified master doesn't apply to the document. While the margins are adjusted across the document, the text frames for the document are not modified.

As in, original Bottom Margin 0.625. Modified margin is 0.5. The Master Pages display across the document with the 0.5 bottom margin. The text frames on the pages have not changed. They still have the old 0.625 Bottom Margin. I can drag them all down one page at a time to make them fit the new 0.5 margin on every page in the document, but that appears to be a rather archaic method.

[thomaso]

9 hours ago, Twolane said:

I can drag them all down one page at a time to make them fit the new 0.5 margin on every page in the document, but that appears to be a rather archaic method.

If the text frames on document pages are in the layer hierarchy outside of a master page layer you can select them all together and adjust their height with just one setting. (see this post)

Perhaps it helps if you upload a screenshot of a document spread with the Layers panel and unfolded master layer / unfolded groups.

[Twolane]

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about:

 

> zoom out to display all spreads in the main window,
–> then drag-select with the Move Tool all text frames that should get modified,
–> activate the option "Transform Objects Separately" in the Context Toolbar,
–> and set the wanted text frame height in the Transform Panel.

Alternatively to drag-select, if you want to modify every text frame in the entire document, an easier way to select them may be via menu "Select".

[Twolane]

What I'm trying to do is change the bottom margin of a book composed of text only. I want to increase the bottom margin of ALL of the book pages to 0.5. I can do this to the book's Master Pages using Document Setup. The pages throughout the book accept the modified Master Page margin increase of 0.5. However, the pages on the book containing the book's text content do not adapt to the change.

The book's two-page Master Page setup has flowing text from the MP on the left to the MP on the right. That is the bottom margin that does not change. I can change it manually, but it does not take to the rest of the book's pages.

What I end up with is every page on the book having a bottom margin of 0.5. Yes, that's what I want. However, the text flowing into this new setting is constrained by the original bottom margin of 0.625.

I was trying to do this without going through this exercise of creating a new template, which would force me to produce an entirely new product, only for a simple bottom-of-page margin change.

[Latens]

The margins are just visual aids and have no influence on the text or any other object for that matter.
If you want to adjust the textframe you need to do this to the textframe on the masterpage by editing linked or on the masterpage itself.
 

[Twolane]

Exactly where in Publisher's menu hierarchy does "Edit Linked" show up?

[Latens]

Click the masterpage object in the layers panel on the regular page and it will show on the toolbar
Also if right-clicked in the layers panel it will show these options.

[Twolane]

Well, if I want to modify book #25, I need margins. In fact, to produce my next book, I'll be using margins, so there's that.

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margins are just visual aids and have no influence on the text or any other object for that matter.

 

[Twolane]

Thanks for all the help. I don't want to waste any more of your time. I've made a new template and produced my product. The product has been uploaded and I've moved on to the next.