Endorphinity Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) Embedded Photo Help gives no explanation, as to the difference between two zoom options I've put into the subject. I perceive them as duplicates. Can someone please explain, what is that difference, if any? Also, what exactly does mean "Pixel size (⌘-9 on Mac)? Edited October 21 by Endorphinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 100% will magnify to the same amount regardless of the image's DPI. Actual size will magnify taking the DPI into account, so a 72 dpi image will be twice as large on screen as a 144 dpi image. These commands do the same thing if the measurement system is set to anything other than pixels. Having two commands makes sense for Photos which most users use in pixels but Publisher and Designer aren't pixel-centric apps so I think one of the commands should be removed from those apps. The other is just confusing to new users. Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MikeTO said: 100% will magnify to the same amount regardless of the image's DPI. For me, the explanation in Help is much more understandable - i.e. pixel to pixel. P.S. and other: https://www.google.com/search?q=Actual+size+site:https://forum.affinity.serif.com Edited October 21 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphinity Posted October 21 Author Share Posted October 21 1 hour ago, MikeTO said: 100% will magnify to the same amount regardless of the image's DPI. Actual size will magnify taking the DPI into account, so a 72 dpi image will be twice as large on screen as a 144 dpi image. These commands do the same thing if the measurement system is set to anything other than pixels. Having two commands makes sense for Photos which most users use in pixels but Publisher and Designer aren't pixel-centric apps so I think one of the commands should be removed from those apps. The other is just confusing to new users. Not much clearer. This is confusing, to say the least, as DPI characterizes the resolution of output device, but not an original image per se. When I take the image with the camera, it only has dimensions in pixels (dots), without any relation to inches, and this is what I know when opening it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphinity Posted October 21 Author Share Posted October 21 59 minutes ago, Pšenda said: For me, the explanation in Help is much more understandable - i.e. pixel to pixel. P.S. and other: https://www.google.com/search?q=Actual+size+site:https://forum.affinity.serif.com Dakujem, I've relied only on site search, which didn't return to me this topic. Next time will rely on googling Pšenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 2 hours ago, MikeTO said: Having two commands makes sense for Photos which most users use in pixels but Publisher and Designer aren't pixel-centric apps so I think one of the commands should be removed from those apps. The other is just confusing to new users. I have to disagree with removing commands/shortcuts that some experienced users may prefer, or be used to using, simply because they may confuse some new users who don't understand the reason for them! lacerto, Oufti and Pšenda 3 Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad "Beware of false knowledge, it is more dangerous than ignorance." (GBS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 5 hours ago, Endorphinity said: Next time will rely on googling I recommend - searching the forum using specialized search services provides much more relevant results. 5 hours ago, Endorphinity said: Not much clearer I personally interpret these terms as follows: "100%" 1 pixel on the monitor = 1 pixel of the image, "Actual size" 1 cm on the monitor = 1 cm of the image. Oufti and Endorphinity 1 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 4 hours ago, PaulEC said: I have to disagree with removing commands/shortcuts that some experienced users may prefer, or be used to using, simply because they may confuse some new users who don't understand the reason for them! ... even in ADesigner and APublisher it is possible to process pixel images, which may be convenient to display in pixel to pixel view. PaulEC and Westerwälder 2 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted October 21 Share Posted October 21 47 minutes ago, Pšenda said: I personally interpret these terms as follows: "100%" 1 pixel on the monitor = 1 pixel of the image, "Actual size" 1 cm on the monitor = 1 cm of the image. I pretty much do the same ... except for me the "Actual Size" is typically a small amount larger or smaller that the exact size. Don't know why. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.6 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufti Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, R C-R said: "Actual Size" is typically a small amount larger or smaller that the exact size. Don't know why. At least there is always a little parallax error, due to the width of the glass. But maybe there is something else in your case. Quote Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endorphinity Posted October 22 Author Share Posted October 22 9 hours ago, Pšenda said: I personally interpret these terms as follows: "100%" 1 pixel on the monitor = 1 pixel of the image, "Actual size" 1 cm on the monitor = 1 cm of the image. How can one measure image just imported from camera in cm? Camera sensor surely has a certain size in cm, but is it relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 4 hours ago, Endorphinity said: Camera sensor surely has a certain size in cm, but is it relevant? Of course it isn't. It is 1 cm if the Document unit is set to cm. In the case of the sensor, it is of course pixels. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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