PaoloT Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Hi, Affinity Photo v2.5.6 on Intel Mac with Monterey 12.7.6. 1. Open a TIFF file (generated by APhoto). 2. Select all, and copy. 3. Move another document to the foreground, and paste. 4. Move the source document to the foreground, and close the window. APhoto prompts to save the document, even if nothing has been changed there. Paolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Hi @PaoloT, I believe this is 'expected' behaviour because as soon as you Select All a 'Raster select all' entry is added to the History panel so even though no changes have been physically made to the source image, in the eyes of Affinity Photo, the file itself has been modified... PaoloT 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaoloT Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 I would then accept it as an expected behavior. But it still clashes a bit with the common experience (considering copying as a modification is a bit forced; maybe it should just be ignored if no other change happens). Paolo Hangman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 21 minutes ago, PaoloT said: considering copying as a modification is a bit forced Simply copying does not generate the "Save document" message It's the "Select all" command that will generate the message Why do you need to do a "Select all" command, since the tiff layer is already selected once you open the tiff file? Just do the copy. PaoloT 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Note that creating a selection can take a significant amount of work, and some users would not appreciate losing that if they forgot to Save a document after creating a Selection that they might need later to continue their work. So, to me, a warning seems appropriate. PaoloT 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: So, to me, a warning seems appropriate. But it's the wrong warning and very dangerous as it lures you into a false sense that you are saving that complex selection Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 5 minutes ago, carl123 said: But it's the wrong warning and very dangerous as it lures you into a false sense that you are saving that complex selection In what way is it the wrong warning? It asks you if you want to Save the document. And if you Save it it will also save your selection, won't it? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Open a jpg/tiff Make a complex selection Close document Click Save, when you get the warning All your hard work is lost Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, carl123 said: All your hard work is lost Not if the selection is still active when you close the document... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, Hangman said: Not if the selection is still active when you close the document... How is it still active? Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 6 minutes ago, carl123 said: How is it still active? The selection is still active unless you've deselected it before closing the file... If the file is closed and then reopened the selection will still be active... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Have you tried it with just... File > Open a JPG Make a selection File > Close Click Save when prompted Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 In which case no it won't if just saving over an existing file, my mistake... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, carl123 said: Have you tried it with just... File > Open a JPG Make a selection File > Close Click Save when prompted So for that one, it looks like a possible bug in that it could be argued that Save should have prompted you whether you want to Save a layered document (e.g., .afphoto) or Flatten. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangman Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: So for that one, it looks like a possible bug in that it could be argued that Save should have prompted you whether you want to Save a layered document (e.g., .afphoto) or Flatten. I think the issue there is that the Affinity apps have always allowed you to overwrite certain file formats, i.e., JPG, TIFF etc. so if the file only has the base layer it gets overwritten if it has more than one layer then it will give you that option... TIFF Left | JPG Right Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.2861 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.2861 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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