SURTS Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Hello. I don't have V2. I'm thinking of upgrading and getting rid of Adobe Illustrator so I'm trying to figure out if I can swap. My most common use is having text around circle. I have two separate circles for text on the top and text on the bottom. That's just the best way that it works for me, So anyway. My issue is this. In illustrator, I simply double-click on the top text, or double-click on the bottom text and I can edit it. In Affinity I can only edit the text on the top layer. So if the bottom text is the top layer when I double click I can only edit the bottom text even if I'm double clicking on the text on the top. It's very frustrating. I don't want to change the layer hierarchy every time I want to change the text. Is there a solution to this please? Happy to upgrade to 2 if it works, but want to make sure first. Thank you. Christine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 39 minutes ago, SURTS said: but want to make sure first. Trial? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURTS Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 13 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Trial? No. I purchased a version a few years ago. Before I upgrade and start using full time I want to make sure I can make the switch. I'm using version 1.10.8. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURTS Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 Here is the file to show you what I mean. Elizabeth.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 minute ago, SURTS said: Before I upgrade and start using full time I want to make sure I can make the switch. I'm using version 1.10.8. That's why I would use the Trial version to see if it suits you before buying the new version. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I think the suggestion may have been to install the Trial of V2, so you can see. But as it's only a 7-day Trial, and as I don't recall any V2 changes in this area, I don't think I would suggest that. Your problem is that you have two objects overlapping each other, and so when you try to click on the text at the top of the circle you're selecting the top object, which is the text at the bottom of the circle. Instead of a simple Left-click, try Alt+Left-click. That's covered in the Help; see the box describing the Modifier Keys: https://affinity.help/publisher/en-US.lproj/pages/ObjectControl/select.html Alfred 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 10 minutes ago, SURTS said: Here is the file to show you what I mean. Since the circles are the same size and overlap, even in the V2 version the top (layers order) text is always selected. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 1 hour ago, SURTS said: I don't want to change the layer hierarchy every time I want to change the text. There is no need to change the hierarchy of layers - just make the top layer invisible, and make it visible again after editing the text. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 I create a circle and duplicate it To the bottom circle I add art text Same for the top circle Now I can only select the top text unless I turn that layer visibility off If I change the order of the text layers then I can select either one with both layers visible, no need to keep changing the layer order Same behaviour in V1 Photo and Publisher Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 59 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: If I change the order of the text layers then I can select either one with both layers visible, no need to keep changing the layer order Note that in the OP's example both texts are inside the circles, not like in your case where the top text is outside the circle. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 As @walt.farrell suggested, holding down the Alt/Option key while using the Text tool (either Frame or Artistic), lets you alternate between overlapping text layers (the focus changes on each time clicked so if you want to select text, do it when you Alt+click the correct frame). If the Move tool is used, instead, the selection will alter between all overlapping layers (not just text layers). walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SURTS Posted April 20 Author Share Posted April 20 9 hours ago, David in Яuislip said: I create a circle and duplicate it To the bottom circle I add art text Same for the top circle Now I can only select the top text unless I turn that layer visibility off If I change the order of the text layers then I can select either one with both layers visible, no need to keep changing the layer order Same behaviour in V1 Photo and Publisher 10 hours ago, walt.farrell said: I think the suggestion may have been to install the Trial of V2, so you can see. But as it's only a 7-day Trial, and as I don't recall any V2 changes in this area, I don't think I would suggest that. Your problem is that you have two objects overlapping each other, and so when you try to click on the text at the top of the circle you're selecting the top object, which is the text at the bottom of the circle. Instead of a simple Left-click, try Alt+Left-click. That's covered in the Help; see the box describing the Modifier Keys: https://affinity.help/publisher/en-US.lproj/pages/ObjectControl/select.html 8 hours ago, Pšenda said: Note that in the OP's example both texts are inside the circles, not like in your case where the top text is outside the circle. Thanks everyone. I'm not sure I understand. Both of my text are inside the circle so I don't think it works. walt.farrell mentioned using Alt and clicking and that works a treat so I'll carry on with that. I really appreciate everyone's help. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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