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Hey! Trying to do some UI work and whenever I try to group things, the children tend to "scatter" around falling outside of the group bounding box. Attached is a video of what I mean.(though in this example, they are staying where they were but the bounding box moved, usually the children scatter all about) Is this a bug or is this a setting of some kind that I'm overlooking?

Posted

Sorry, but I don't see anything happening in your video.

-- Walt
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Posted

@walt.farrell Ah gotcha, I should be more specific. When I tried grouping the three arrows, after I gave the group a name and pressed enter, the bounding box of that newly formed group jumped down the screen quit a bit, leaving the child elements behind. 

Posted

I recall something from quite a while back that looked like this. I think the solution had to do with how the items had been constructed. For instance your "Down Arrow Icon" layers are groups of what? 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Humachuka said:

When I tried grouping the three arrows, after I gave the group a name and pressed enter, the bounding box of that newly formed group jumped down the screen quit a bit, leaving the child elements behind. 

For me, watching that video:

  1. Nothing became grouped, or got a name.
  2. No bounding boxes moved.

That's why I'm puzzled...

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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Posted (edited)

@Old Bruce Oh interesting! For the down arrow icon group, they are comprised of a path I drew with the pen and a rectangle set to 0% opacity. Would that affect how they behave when I tried to group them in a new group?

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Edited by Humachuka
Posted
10 minutes ago, Humachuka said:

Would that affect how they behave when I tried to group them?

I doubt it. 

I think you had better post the offending bits of the file to the forum. Make a copy of the file and delete most of the stuff, just include the Artboard the stuff I highlighted. See if the same behaviour happens, if it does save that copy and post it to the forum. If it does not exhibit the same behaviour then there is something else in the document that is causing the problem and you may need to post that original file here, if you can. 

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I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

Posted
10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

For me, watching that video:

  1. Nothing became grouped, or got a name.
  2. No bounding boxes moved.

That's why I'm puzzled...

In the video, in my layers panel you can see the new group called "arrows" show up after the modal prompts me to name a new group. After that, the expected behavior is that the bounding box would appear right where I tried to group those items which is on top of that light green pill shape, instead you can see the bounding box appear near the text "Sub-tasks" I then go to the new group in the layers panel to show where the children items of that group are compared to the bounding box. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Humachuka said:

In the video, in my layers panel you can see the new group called "arrows" show up after the modal prompts me to name a new group. After that, the expected behavior is that the bounding box would appear right where I tried to group those items which is on top of that light green pill shape, instead you can see the bounding box appear near the text "Sub-tasks" I then go to the new group in the layers panel to show where the children items of that group are compared to the bounding box. 

For me, the video does none of that if I play it.

But thanks for that description, which enouraged me to step through it slowly, and I could see those things happening.

Unfortunately, I have no thoughts beyond what Old Bruce has suggested

-- Walt
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    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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Posted
29 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

For me, watching that video:

  1. Nothing became grouped, or got a name.
  2. No bounding boxes moved.

That's why I'm puzzled...

What I see is 

ScreenShot2023-11-17at12_02_25PM.png.166e5969e63dee455a7f1b17d8314102.png

ScreenShot2023-11-17at12_02_40PM.png.d58286dfe3c1a9bb7971b71ccf50e661.png

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 
Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

Posted
7 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I doubt it. 

I think you had better post the offending bits of the file to the forum. Make a copy of the file and delete most of the stuff, just include the Artboard the stuff I highlighted. See if the same behaviour happens, if it does save that copy and post it to the forum. If it does not exhibit the same behaviour then there is something else in the document that is causing the problem and you may need to post that original file here, if you can. 

Thank you for the advice! I copied the file to try and replicate the behavior it and it continued to do the same thing on my end. I've linked it here.

potential-grouping-bug?.afdesign

Posted

What I am seeing is that the little curves are oriented 90 degrees and the invisible/transparent/0% opacity rectangle is oriented -90 degrees as is the group. That may have something to do with it. If I ungroup each arrow, delete the invisible rectangle and then group just the three little arrows on their own they stay in place.

ScreenShot2023-11-17at12_14_44PM.png.5afed0b463f148f754d99d1f44f2cdb1.png   ScreenShot2023-11-17at12_14_34PM.png.f115df61f2e0e6579232260ff7eaa397.png  

Plus one more weird thing is the movement here on my machine, off to the side instead of vertically.

ScreenShot2023-11-17at12_06_44PM.png.426c391082139177b96f51c9c90e7386.png

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

If I ungroup each arrow, delete the invisible rectangle and then group just the three little arrows on their own they stay in place.

Interesting thing is if I select the small bell icon and the text "No reminder" to group them, they start doing it to. Are you able to group them on your end without issue? Also thanks a ton for taking the time with me on this. Very grateful for any help I can get. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Humachuka said:

... if I select the small bell icon and the text "No reminder" to group them, they start doing it to. Are you able to group them on your end without issue?

Wow, the group scoots over to the right like in my last screenshot.

How did this get made? Did you copy paste items from some other document?

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Posted
1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

How did this get made? Did you copy paste items from some other document?

I did copy and paste some symbols which are the icons and the status bar and I also copy and pasted the dark green rectangle with the gradient on the top of the art board. Another thing I did was copy SVG code and pasted it from  https://heroicons.com/ for the bell and calendar icons. 

Posted

The group transformation error has something to do with Artboard location in the document space.

If you first rearrange the Artboards so 'Task Details' has its origin at top left of all, then the subsequent grouping will be performed correctly.

That is proposed as a workaround to help get your project finished. There is a bug to be fixed by the developers.

 

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