_Th Posted October 22, 2023 Posted October 22, 2023 If the last thing you've 'touched' is any (floating) palette, the Windows keyboard shortcut to close the program, ALT F4, closes the palette instead. Not the end of the world by any means, but super annoying especially if you're a two-monitor, floating palettes arranged just so kind of person. Which I am. And I've F4'd a palette more times than I can count, hence my finally coming here to ask for relief. Pretty please. Quote
_Th Posted December 6, 2023 Author Posted December 6, 2023 Maybe I should have called the palettes panels. Would that help? Every time I close a panel with ALT-F4 instead of the app, like I just did, I exercise language skills that are NSFW. Serif, if I've done you any good ever (and I have, I promise), I'd like to cash in a few chips. Quote
Aammppaa Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 Agreed. I would expect... Alt+F4 to close the application, and Ctrl+F4 to close the active document. @_Th in case you didn't realise, you can save panel layouts via Window > Studio > Add Preset Quote Win10 Home x64 | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X @ 3.7GHz | 48 GB RAM | 1TB SSD | nVidia GTX 1660 | Wacom Intuos Pro
walt.farrell Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 4 hours ago, _Th said: Maybe I should have called the palettes panels. Would that help? That would help. Also, though, as you've posted this in the Feedback section, usually there will not be any response from Serif. They generally read this section for planning, but rarely do they post anything as they do not discuss future plans. So if you were expecting a response from them, you probably won't get one. _Th 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
fde101 Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 This might qualify as a bug report, however, in which case it is in the wrong place. walt.farrell, _Th and debraspicher 2 1 Quote
_Th Posted December 6, 2023 Author Posted December 6, 2023 7 hours ago, Aammppaa said: in case you didn't realise, you can save panel layouts via Window > Studio > Add Preset Thanks. Yes, I always save presets. As retentive as I am about my setup, that's a must. Aammppaa 1 Quote
debraspicher Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 2 hours ago, _Th said: Thanks. Yes, I always save presets. As retentive as I am about my setup, that's a must. And there's a shortcut for accessing those so that helps... they do try to help us where they can with keyboarding options... This is certainly not default behavior for Windows. Ctrl + F4 would be expected to close a window, whereas Alt + F4 would close the program. Ctrl + F4 would be better suited for closing a tab/window, not a panel, I would think semantically... _Th and Bit Disappointed 2 Quote
_Th Posted December 6, 2023 Author Posted December 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, debraspicher said: there's a shortcut for accessing those Silly me, had missed that rather obvious fact, so thanks! 19 minutes ago, debraspicher said: Ctrl + F4 would be better suited for closing a tab/window or panel Personally, I would rather panels never close by keyboard shortcut. Having Tab hide/reveal all the panels/the Studio is perfect for me. I didn't realize that CTRL-F4 didn't close documents. Hmm. Quote
debraspicher Posted December 6, 2023 Posted December 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, _Th said: Silly me, had missed that rather obvious fact, so thanks! Personally, I would rather panels never close by keyboard shortcut. Having Tab hide/reveal all the panels/the Studio is perfect for me. I didn't realize that CTRL-F4 didn't close documents. Hmm. Yes, I agree completely. I miswrote. Sorry about that. This is one of those little things that is out of convention with the rest of the OS. For example, in a web browser, mail program, etc, it'll close tabs until it closes the program. In my IDE, it'll close my coding windows and then start closing projects/navigation/etc... The panel closing may not even be a deliberate convention in this case. It may just be "default" behavior on behalf of the framework since technically to the developer/Affinity itself, the panels are an open window of sorts at root level... Quote
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