MiiPalooza Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 So I'm trying to do a pretty simple procedure (or so I thought). I have this mountain shape that I would love to sit behind the text, but nothing is working. I've tried adjusting the layer up and down, changing the passthrough function, and even playing with masking, even though it's not what I wanted. Any thoughts on what I might have done to keep the shape sitting on top? Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Hi @MiiPalooza, Welcome to the Affinity Forums! The "Passthrough" info is insufficient here. It just says different blend modes in its nested layers get respected + transferred. Quite likely there is a child layer inside "ExploringT3" with a different blend mode, i.e. "Darken" for the right text frame in this example: Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 You have black on the Text overtop black on the graphic. Try having a different colour for the text or the graphic. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 @Old Bruce, isn't the text rather dark gray – versus black of the shape – and thus should appear as visible texture? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 I don’t think Blend Modes, other than Normal, need to be used here as far as I can tell from the screenshot. If the Blend Mode of both the “ExploringT3” layer and the mountain layer are set back to Normal then the mountain should show behind the text, as long as the “ExploringT3” layer doesn’t have something ‘odd’ in it (which we can’t see in the screenshot), and the mountain layer is below that layer in the stack. If that doesn’t work then we need to know what the “ExploringT3” layer is made of - a screenshot showing the expanded "ExploringT3" layer would be useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 41 minutes ago, GarryP said: a screenshot showing the expanded "ExploringT3" layer would be useful. Even better, a sample .afdesign document so we can see all the details would help. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiiPalooza Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Even better, a sample .afdesign document so we can see all the details would help. Sorry about the delay. I wasn't receiving these notifications. Attaching the sample file below SampleEITSfile.afdesign Edited August 7, 2023 by MiiPalooza Updated file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiiPalooza Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 6 hours ago, GarryP said: I don’t think Blend Modes, other than Normal, need to be used here as far as I can tell from the screenshot. If the Blend Mode of both the “ExploringT3” layer and the mountain layer are set back to Normal then the mountain should show behind the text, as long as the “ExploringT3” layer doesn’t have something ‘odd’ in it (which we can’t see in the screenshot), and the mountain layer is below that layer in the stack. If that doesn’t work then we need to know what the “ExploringT3” layer is made of - a screenshot showing the expanded "ExploringT3" layer would be useful. Yeah, not sure how passthrough was selected. Changed all to normal. I was thinking it may be ExploringIT3 layer as well. Expanded it and cleaned up the weird groupings. I did discover that the "Exploring" & "Solutions" are Artistic Text Tools, while "I.T." is a Frame Text Tool. I think I did this because the period (.) wasn't working with this particular font type. I don't think this is the issue, though. All text is still sitting behind the Curve (mountain). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiiPalooza Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 7 hours ago, thomaso said: @Old Bruce, isn't the text rather dark gray – versus black of the shape – and thus should appear as visible texture? 7 hours ago, thomaso said: @Old Bruce, isn't the text rather dark gray – versus black of the shape – and thus should appear as visible texture? 7 hours ago, Old Bruce said: You have black on the Text overtop black on the graphic. Try having a different colour for the text or the graphic. I didn't think the text color should be an issue either, but apparently that was the cause... Can anyone explain why the grey text wouldn't just sit on top? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 8, 2023 Share Posted August 8, 2023 3 hours ago, MiiPalooza said: Can anyone explain why the grey text wouldn't just sit on top? I checked your file again and you have Black text with transparency. Choose Grey colour at 100% Opacity. Note that I had to change the font to one I have on my machine. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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