Note character formatting carried over to next note

[MikeTO]

For notes that are formatted with a paragraph style (e.g., Hyperlink), the character style applied to the last character of that note will be applied to the next note added.

For notes without a paragraph style (e.g., No Style), the character style and individual character attributes applied to the last character of that note will be applied to the next node added.

The user must manually apply No Style for character style to the new note to avoid the undesired formatting.

Here's the original thread in the desktop questions forum:

 

[Old Bruce]

5 hours ago, MikeTO said:

For notes without a paragraph style (e.g., No Style),

<Pedant On>

The Text Style is whatever is set for [No Style]. In other words there is always a Paragraph Style and Character Style applied to all the text.

<Pedant Off>

We all should use separate (well named) Character and Paragraph Styles for things like Notes and their Numbers (both in the Text and the Note itself). They can be copies of other already existing Styles. It is simply far easier to work with.

[MikeTO]

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

The Text Style is whatever is set for [No Style]. In other words there is always a Paragraph Style and Character Style applied to all the text.

I don't consider [No Style] to be a style because you can't define the attributes for it. Perhaps it really is a style under the hood, one with no attributes and that you can't edit, but even the Text Styles panel doesn't list No Style in the summary when No Style is selected for a paragraph. Instead it lists the text's individual character attributes because there is no style in use. Even the special style Base will show in the Summary if you apply it to a paragraph (which has to be done by right clicking).

[walt.farrell]

39 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

I don't consider [No Style] to be a style because you can't define the attributes for it.

You can, actually, at least for the [No Style] that is a kind of Paragraph Text Style. Not, though, for the [No Style] Character Text Style as far as I know.

Create a Text Frame. Add some text, and style it as you want. Make sure the Context Toolbar shows [No Style] for the Paragraph Text Style.

Edit > Defaults > Synchronize from Selection, then Edit > Defaults > Save.

[MikeTO]

3 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

You can, actually, at least for the [No Style] that is a kind of Paragraph Text Style. Not, though, for the [No Style] Character Text Style as far as I know.

Create a Text Frame. Add some text, and style it as you want. Make sure the Context Toolbar shows [No Style] for the Paragraph Text Style.

Edit > Defaults > Synchronize from Selection, then Edit > Defaults > Save.

I could be wrong but I don't think Defaults is the same as No Style, I believe it's just the default individual paragraph, character and object attributes used when creating an object such as a text frame.

If you open this document with two frames, select both, and choose No Style, it sets No Style (per the History panel) but nothing changes because there is no style to remove. The text in the frames remains different even though you performed the same action to both. To make them both use the default attributes you have to choose Edit > Defaults > Revert.

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If instead you selected both frames and chose Body before choosing No Style, the top frame will switch from 12pt to 18pt but otherwise the fonts and colours will still be different. I don't fully understand what's happening here.

To me the real clue is the summary field in Text Styles. If No Style was a style it should say No Style instead of listing the individual attributes.

But none of this really matters, it's just fun to discuss while we wait for 2.1 to be released. 🙂 

[walt.farrell]

8 hours ago, MikeTO said:

I could be wrong but I don't think Defaults is the same as No Style, I believe it's just the default individual paragraph, character and object attributes used when creating an object such as a text frame.

If you set the Defaults, and Save them, then you will change the meaning of [No Style] (as a Paragraph setting) for other paragraphs, and for other documents. After the sequence I detailed above, I am able to do the following:

1. Create a new document.
2. Drat a Text Frame.
3. Set the Paragraph Style to Body.
4. Add some text, which all appears as defined in the standard Body text style.
5. Put the cursor in one paragraph and change the Paragraph setting to [No Style] in the Context Toolbar. At that point, that paragraph (and only that paragraph) changes to the characteristics Saved in the earlier sequence of operations.

[MikeTO]

4 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

If you set the Defaults, and Save them, then you will change the meaning of [No Style] (as a Paragraph setting) for other paragraphs, and for other documents. After the sequence I detailed above, I am able to do the following:

1. Create a new document.
2. Drat a Text Frame.
3. Set the Paragraph Style to Body.
4. Add some text, which all appears as defined in the standard Body text style.
5. Put the cursor in one paragraph and change the Paragraph setting to [No Style] in the Context Toolbar. At that point, that paragraph (and only that paragraph) changes to the characteristics Saved in the earlier sequence of operations.

I think we're in agreement on what applying No Style will do to formatted text but have just chosen to think about it differently.

[Dan C]

Hi MikeTO, 

Thanks for this info, i've logged this as a bug. 

Lee

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The issue "End note formatting bleeds into note number and next end note." (REF: AFB-7551) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.2.0.1857".
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