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LUT export/import do not work properly


Mariusz_F

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Problem description:

After exporting LUT and then importing it back o the image, the image outlook is not the same, eg. very low contrast.

Size of the LUT do not influence the result.

The same problem appear in Affinity Photo V1.

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15 minutes ago, Mariusz_F said:

After exporting LUT and then importing it back o the image

Can you explain your workflow a but more, please?

How did you get a LUT to export?

If it was already in the image, then wouldn't adding it a second time have to change the results?

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Workflow is typical I think:

1. I make adjustment to the image eg. white balance, curves, etc.

2. I export the LUT

3. I open the same original image, with no adjustments

4. I import LUT what was exported in step 2.

And the final result is like on the images attached, that the new image has a different look, no contrast, etc.

 

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Thanks. The two images you've included look almost identical to me. Perhaps you could provide the original .afphoto file including the adjustment layers, the .cube file you exported (and a screenshot of that export dialog), and the new .afphoto with the LUT applied?

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
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    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
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Hi @Mariusz_F,

Thanks for your report!

I can confirm this issue is logged with our developers as a bug, I will be sure to 'bump' this with our team now to bring it to their attention once again.

I hope this helps :)

Please note -

I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time.

Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks!

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  • 2 weeks later...
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Hi @RalphMara,

Welcome to the Affinity Forums :)

Unfortunately this issue is still logged with our development team to be resolved at this time - I will be sure to 'bump' this with your post for you now.

I hope this clears things up!

Please note -

I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time.

Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks!

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Thanks for letting me know @Thomasdelange and I'm certainly sorry to hear this - I will be sure to 'bump' this with our team to bring it to their attention once more, and include the information above.

I hope this helps!

Please note -

I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time.

Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks!

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  • 2 months later...
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The issue "LUT does not apply the same effect after it has been exported" (REF: AFP-4767) has been fixed by the developers in build "2.1.0.1806".

This fix is in the current customer release.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us

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@Serif Info Bot I've encountered this bug when editing in a 32 bit workflow. Confirm it has been fixed for 16 bit but it still exists for 32 bit. Here's a video I recorded

 

 

Using latest version Affinity Photo v2.1.1.1847

2021 14" M1 Pro Macbook Pro, 16GB RAM

Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Current Beta versions.

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Many thanks for updating us here @Maxdanger, I can confirm that I'm seeing the same behaviour and I have therefore reopened the issue with the development team.

I hope this helps :) 

Please note -

I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time.

Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks!

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2 minutes ago, Dan C said:

Many thanks for updating us here @Maxdanger, I can confirm that I'm seeing the same behaviour and I have therefore reopened the issue with the development team.

I hope this helps :) 

Awesome - cheers for the quick reply around Dan :) 

2021 14" M1 Pro Macbook Pro, 16GB RAM

Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Current Beta versions.

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Spent a while colour grading and saved the grade as a lut, but all the lut did when I imported it back in was increase the luminosity and saturate the reds, it subtle. As you can see from the 3 images the grade is not subtle at all lol.

Before grading
Screenshot2024-04-02at08_10_51.thumb.png.53f7d3ba1b9038c430da970ecd34783c.png

After grading not subtle at all with the Teal and orange / pink with just the adjustment layers turned on.

Screenshot2024-04-02at08_12_44.thumb.png.1a5f2ee7296019efc431a6cc4232aa4e.png

This is with the adjustment layers turned off and just the Lut turned on.
Screenshot2024-04-02at08_16_32.thumb.png.bdc5640214b5fde6dcb90f7bbc99081f.png
So just to make sure it was not me I opened up another photo with plenty of blue similar sky [actually photo taken on the same day] and red to check the LUT obviously the blee should have gone teal in colour and the orange-reds more pink. but as you can see it has just not done the job at all.. 

Before applying the Lut

Screenshot2024-04-02at08_59_38.thumb.png.6ea8efa1ac34bcb0b7b45bbd074b21df.png

After applying the LUT, reds and oranges have become a little more saturated, and obviusly the sky and water have not turned teal in colour. Screenshot2024-04-02at08_59_43.thumb.png.8d21128e70e30908978a4952d999a6a2.png

I am using the Mac M1 Sonama 14.3.1 affinity photo2 build 2.4.1

Screenshot 2024-04-02 at 08.16.32.png

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Welcome to the Forums @lucy dawlish!

Sorry to see you're having trouble - as above our team are aware of issues with exported LUTs retaining the same colour adjustments, as present in the file before exporting.

This is logged with our development team and I'll be sure to 'bump' this with them now, including the information provided in your screenshots above.

I hope this helps :)

Please note -

I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time.

Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible.

Many thanks!

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@Dan C thanks for your reply, I could see that the issue was there in June 2023 but as it was April 2024 thought it OK to just bump this to the team. Asd I could not see anywhere the the issue had been resolved or not.

 

Anyways thank you again for your quick reply
I hope there is a resolution to this issue soon as it would help with workflow immensely for me.

Kind regards

LucyD

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