Gokhan Eser Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 I created it with CMYK. And I sent the image to Artboard in RGB format. The color format is changing. I've never had this issue in V1. Is there anything going wrong? I am not looking for a solution. I think this is a problem. Ekran Kaydı 2023-02-08 22.00.54.mov Quote
Hangman Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 @Gokhan Eser, you are copy/pasting between two different colour models so the colours are going to appear differently when displayed in a CMYK colour space vs an RGB colour space. What is your logic for working in CMYK and then copy/pasting to an RGB artboard? Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Gokhan Eser Posted February 9, 2023 Author Posted February 9, 2023 21 hours ago, Hangman said: @Gokhan Eser, you are copy/pasting between two different colour models so the colours are going to appear differently when displayed in a CMYK colour space vs an RGB colour space. What is your logic for working in CMYK and then copy/pasting to an RGB artboard? For the Mockup, I designed it in CMYK format, then I need to send it to the RGB project. I didn't have this problem in V1. But I encountered into this in V2. Quote
Carolien Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 I have run into the same issue. Using the CMYK color sliders seems to force the CMYK values to stick. When I forget to do that the color difference can be quite annoying. Quote
Gokhan Eser Posted February 11, 2023 Author Posted February 11, 2023 @walt.farrell What do you think about it? I think you have experience with this. Can we move this issue to the bug section? This is an important problem for me. Quote
Hangman Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 On 2/9/2023 at 9:00 PM, Gokhan Eser said: For the Mockup, I designed it in CMYK format, then I need to send it to the RGB project. I didn't have this problem in V1. But I encountered into this in V2. This is a definite bug, V2 is displaying the incorrect colour when a rasterised image is copied from a CMYK document and pasted to an RGB document. Pasting the same rasterised file into an Apple Pages document maintains the correct and exact same colour values, as does V1 (as you mentioned in your original post). Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Gokhan Eser Posted February 11, 2023 Author Posted February 11, 2023 Yes, I can't move any property to another RGB Artboard. Ekran Kaydı 2023-02-11 17.59.29.mov Quote
Hangman Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Carolien said: I have run into the same issue. Using the CMYK color sliders seems to force the CMYK values to stick. When I forget to do that the color difference can be quite annoying. @Carolien, I may be wrong but I think your issue may be different, based on your description at least... When applying colours in your CMYK document are you applying them as RGB, HSL or CMYK and are you also rasterising the image and copy/pasting between CMYK and RGB documents? As mentioned above, there is definitely a bug here where V2 is incorrectly displaying the colours of images rasterised in Affinity Designer 2.0.4 when copied from a CMYK document to an RGB Document... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Hangman Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gokhan Eser said: Yes, I can't move any property to another RGB Artboard. Is there a specific reason you need to rasterise the image? If you leave it as an Image, rather than rasterising it when you copy and paste it to an RGB Artboard, while there will be a colour shift, it won't be anywhere as big as the colour shift you're seeing owing to this bug... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
walt.farrell Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, Gokhan Eser said: @walt.farrell What do you think about it? I think you have experience with this. Can we move this issue to the bug section? This is an important problem for me. Sorry, but I cannot understand what is happening based on your video. But if you are copying CMYK pixels and pasting them into an RGB document, as far as I know the colors should change. 19 minutes ago, Hangman said: As mentioned above, there is definitely a bug here where V2 is incorrectly displaying the colours of images rasterised in Affinity Designer 2.0.4 when copied from a CMYK document to an RGB Document... Why is that incorrect. Pixels copied from a CMYK document to an RGB document should change color, in many cases, when the required color conversion happens. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Hangman Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Sorry, but I cannot understand what is happening based on your video. But if you are copying CMYK pixels and pasting them into an RGB document, as far as I know the colors should change. They should and they will but there is something very odd going on here which may be Mac specific, the colour shift is way off when copying and pasting between the two different colour models. If you make a comparison using the same image and/or colours with a V1 document this isn't happening... I'll make a screen recording and upload it shortly to demonstrate the issue further, it would then be helpful, if you have time, to test it on Windows so we can see if it is Mac specific or a V2 issue... Gokhan Eser and walt.farrell 1 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Gokhan Eser Posted February 11, 2023 Author Posted February 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Sorry, but I cannot understand what is happening based on your video. But if you are copying CMYK pixels and pasting them into an RGB document, as far as I know the colors should change. Why is that incorrect. Pixels copied from a CMYK document to an RGB document should change color, in many cases, when the required color conversion happens. There was no such problem in V1. I've been using Affinity for almost years. This also applies to other Ai or other programs. Quote
Hangman Posted February 11, 2023 Posted February 11, 2023 So, steps to reproduce... In V1... Create two documents, one CMYK, the second RGB In the CMYK document add some swatches, e.g., CMYK and RGB Group the swatches and duplicate the group Rasterise the swatches in the duplicated group Copy the rasterised swatches from the CMYK document to the RGB document Result, no noticeable colour shift Repeat the exercise in V2 using the same colour profiles for both documents and the result when copying the rasterised colour swatches from the CMYK document to the RGB document is a very noticable colour shift. Paste the same rasterised swatches created in the V2 CMYK document into any other application using the same RGB colour profile as the Affinity Designer document, e.g., Apple Pages, Pixelmator (or whatever you have available) and the results mirror that of Designer V1, i.e., no noticeable colour shift in the pasted document. CMYK to RGB.mp4 Gokhan Eser 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Gokhan Eser Posted February 12, 2023 Author Posted February 12, 2023 How do we move this topic to the bug page? Quote
Hangman Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Gokhan Eser said: How do we move this topic to the bug page? One of the moderators will move it... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
lepr Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 The current V2 does a non-colour managed conversion from CMYK to RGB when a CMYK Pixel object is pasted in an RGB document. It's using the same simplistic formulas as the common online colour converters which do not consider colour profiles. V1 does a colour managed conversion which maintains colour appearance by taking into account the source and destination colour profiles. Quote
Hangman Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, ,,, said: The current V2 does a non-colour managed conversion from CMYK to RGB when a CMYK Pixel object is pasted in an RGB document. It's using the same simplistic formulas as the common online colour converters which do not consider colour profiles. Therefore still a bug as it clearly shouldn't... Also, curious to know if this affects Windows and iPad... Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
lepr Posted February 12, 2023 Posted February 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hangman said: Therefore still a bug as it clearly shouldn't... Also, curious to know if this affects Windows and iPad... Of course a bug! Did I say or imply otherwise? [rhetorical question, in case that could be misinterpreted too] I was only giving a little insight into what is happening, not a justification for the change. Quote
Staff stokerg Posted February 14, 2023 Staff Posted February 14, 2023 Hi @Gokhan Eser, Thanks for reporting this. It certainly is different behaviour to version 1. I've logged this with the Dev team to resolve. @HangmanWindows is also affect by this and i'm just charging my iPad so i can test it on there. But the issue has been logged with the Developers now Hangman and Gokhan Eser 2 Quote
Hangman Posted February 14, 2023 Posted February 14, 2023 @stokerg, many thanks for confirming and logging... hopefully there will be a fix in an upcoming release... Gokhan Eser 1 Quote Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
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