affinity for macOS

[Anaximandre]

my mac is High Sierra 10.13.6 Can I bye a version for my Mac  ?

Edited January 30 by Anaximandre

[Komatös]

Hi, @Anaximandre

Short: No. Lowest supported version is 10.15 Catalina.

[Anaximandre]

On 1/30/2023 at 6:35 PM, Komatös said:

Hi, @Anaximandre

Short: No. Lowest supported version is 10.15 Catalina.

Thanks, I now that for new version, but I want bye an old version ...

[GarryP]

51 minutes ago, Anaximandre said:

Thanks, I now that for new version, but I want bye an odld version

Licences for the V1 versions of the Affinity applications are no longer available for purchase, either directly from Serif or via the Microsoft or Apple stores.

In other words, since V2 was released, you can only purchase new licences for the V2 applications.

[firstdefence]

Wow! how to cut away a portion of your market and alienate its users.

I'll assume you have a 2011 mac. There are ways to get Catalina onto an unsupported Mac using a patcher: https://dosdude1.com/catalina/ if you are good at technical IT its possible but a better option would be to look at buying a 2012/13 mac these will take OS X Catalina then you can get V2 and sell the old mac.

 

[N.P.M.]

2 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Wow! how to cut away a portion of your market and alienate its users.

Probably it was the deal with apple/microsoft that made them do it that way for the universal license.
One should think that if the v1 were still available, Serif would gain from the sales and have those users upgrade hardware and upgrade the affinity's in due time.
Most likely they wanted only new sales for the universal license as that would create more revenue.

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, N.P.M. said:

Probably it was the deal with apple/microsoft that made them do it that way for the universal license.
One should think that if the v1 were still available, Serif would gain from the sales and have those users upgrade hardware and upgrade the affinity's in due time.
Most likely they wanted only new sales for the universal license as that would create more revenue.

More likely, they don't want to be accused of selling a product they won't be fully supporting, since they'll never be fixing most reported bugs; just ones that prevent operation due to OS changes.

[N.P.M.]

17 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

More likely, they don't want to be accused of selling a product they won't be fully supporting, since they'll never be fixing most reported bugs; just ones that prevent operation due to OS changes.

And that's why we're running beta 1.5

 

[walt.farrell]

25 minutes ago, N.P.M. said:

And that's why we're running beta 1.5

 

Beta 1.5 of what? And if it's on a Mac, I thought Mac betas expired.

[N.P.M.]

5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Beta 1.5 of what? And if it's on a Mac, I thought Mac betas expired.

It was a sarcastic remark to what the version2 delivers.
We are not running a new version but a half baked beta version 1.5 no matter what OS.
 

[firstdefence]

49 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

More likely, they don't want to be accused of selling a product they won't be fully supporting, since they'll never be fixing most reported bugs; just ones that prevent operation due to OS changes.

As long as that is stated at point of sale, i.e. Caveat Emptor (let the buyer beware), I cannot see the problem. 

[N.P.M.]

Well most of the bugs were the same as in version one so they could have gotten their priorities straight by fixing them altogether for both v1 and v2.
The so called architecture remodeling is just an excuse to not have to deal with v1 bugs and make it appear as though we got something new, we didn't.

• Bad UI in version2,bad text, invisible buttons or unable to tell if they are selected.
• Real user experience overlooked (grid, layer locks, etc.)
• Bad error messages that makes no sense to te end user.
• Boolean operators not working or are only half implemented.
• Brush management is bad.
• Color management is bad
• Brush handling on large docs make programs crawl.
• Overall crashing and freezing and making much use of the resources makes programs crawl.
• Zooming makes programs freeze.
• Deleted options because they cannot make it work.
• very bad implementation to cloud/nas/lan/drives 
  No reading no saving or corrupting files and overall sad it doesn't work in 2023 where most things do work with those saving and storing options.
• And the list goes on.

And the excuse we want it to be more like PS is BS because an argument made by @MattP was that Serif didn't want to copy things over because they wanted to create something new and more user friendly and also better as to what is on the market.

I said it once to defend Serif in this respect that they wouldn't go out and buy licenses for proven tools/frameworks and build a shell around it.
Perhaps they should have.

But hey, they listened and re instated the msi installer(another business failure)
Provided an extra discount for late to the party users who whined and cried and gave some cheap presents to those old time users.

When I bought version 1 in 2017 and later on publisher with the studiolink options, I thought it was a great thing and had potential.

It had potential.

 

[LondonSquirrel]

9 minutes ago, N.P.M. said:

make it appear as though we got something new, we didn't

Except we did get new somethings. Books, footnotes/sidenotes/endnotes in APub, the knife tool and shape builder in AD, etc.

10 minutes ago, N.P.M. said:

• Bad error messages that makes no sense to te end user.

On this I agree. Any error message should be absolutely clear what the error is. 

[N.P.M.]

Books feature isn't up to par.

knife,shape builder are only working half or most of the times not or by workarounds.

notes should been there from the get go.

[loukash]

6 hours ago, firstdefence said:

how to cut away a portion of your market and alienate its users.

An elegant solution would have been a minor update to v1 so that it would also accept the v2 license, particularly as part of the Universal License. Like that, users still would be able to download v1 from the Serif Store and run that instead of v2 if they don't have a compatible computer.
That said, there still would have been a limit since e.g. El Capitan never supported the My Account feature. But on MacOS Sierra and above it might have worked.

[LondonSquirrel]

2 hours ago, N.P.M. said:

Books feature isn't up to par.

knife,shape builder are only working half or most of the times not or by workarounds.

notes should been there from the get go.

Congratulations. When you had the opportunity to try V2 for free you would have found out there was nothing that you wanted.

[N.P.M.]

hahaha ain't you funny,now go and find some nuts.