WEBP Export questions

[Pšenda]

1 hour ago, DarkClown said:

export 100 WEBP pictures for a client in 1400x800 resolution

Why don't you use Export Persona? 

[DarkClown]

22 hours ago, Pšenda said:

Why don't you use Export Persona? 

Hmmm, I currently don't see the advantage of that. The export options are buggy as it looks (at least presets are available but don't seem to work) - you select WEBP (High Quality) and the file format remains PNG.  WEBP options are nt available - it looks like the presets are selectable but without any effect at all. As well the export options don't seem to affect the output file.

Despit that I tried to work my way through the so called "Help" I could not get sufficient information on how the dialog is supposed to work. I also don't get the difference between the "Defaults" and the "Selections" tab. 

So aside that I don't really understand the logic and functions behind the export persona, they also don't seem to work as expected. Where would be the benefit of using the export persona? Could it seriously save me this significant amount of unnecessary and repetitive clicks and effort?

[Old Bruce]

4 hours ago, DarkClown said:

you select WEBP (High Quality) and the file format remains PNG.  WEBP options are nt available

This is because you are looking at two different panels. One is the Slices panel where you can set up several different file formats and sizes TIFF 8bit and 16bits at 1200 pixels wide and JPEG at 800 pixels wide as well as 1200 pixels wide etc.

The Default is just that, a default for new exports. The selection is the selected slice's selected output.

 

If all you are doing is a couple of formats, pdf and jpeg say, then make one slice a PDF and then make a new Export of it with JPEG. The export persona is quite powerful. And it can be set to work with continuous export* so that every time you save the Designer or Photo document the exported files will be updated.

 

* A major frustration is that you have to kick-start it each time you reopen the Designer or Photo document (export anew then tick the Continuous Export box).

[R C-R]

6 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

The Default is just that, a default for new exports.

But it looks like in what @DarkClown showed in the screenshot of the Export Options was the Default tab, & there the Preset: & File Format: fields do not agree -- the first shows TIFF & the second PNG.

I cannot duplicate that on my Mac -- if say I choose one of the TIFF presets then the file format immediately changes to TIFF to match it.

[Old Bruce]

3 hours ago, R C-R said:

I cannot duplicate that on my Mac -- if say I choose one of the TIFF presets then the file format immediately changes to TIFF to match it.

But you are able to then change the actual export to WEBP or PNG, the default is simply just a convenient starting point.

[R C-R]

11 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

But you are able to then change the actual export to WEBP or PNG, the default is simply just a convenient starting point.

I am not sure what you mean. I was just commenting on the screenshot showing the Default tab with non-matching settings.

I cannot duplicate that. Can you?

[Old Bruce]

15 hours ago, R C-R said:

I cannot duplicate that. Can you?

As per the screenshots from DarkClown and myself select the Defaults button, not the Selection button in the Export Options panel.

[R C-R]

17 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

As per the screenshots from DarkClown and myself select the Defaults button, not the Selection button in the Export Options panel.

??? It looks to me like the Defaults button is selected in DarkClown's screenshot in this post above.

[Old Bruce]

1 minute ago, R C-R said:

??? It looks to me like the Defaults button is selected in DarkClown's screenshot in this post above.

Yes, it is. I think we are talking at cross purposes here.

With the Defaults button chosen in the Export Options panel one can change the output of the export in the Slices panel and see no change to the 'Default' for new slices.

[R C-R]

14 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

With the Defaults button chosen in the Export Options panel one can change the output of the export in the Slices panel and see no change to the 'Default' for new slices.

That's not the point. This has nothing to do with the Slices panel. Note that in the Defaults section of DarkClown's screenshot the Preset is set to TIFF but the File Format just below it in the same panel is showing PNG.

So again, I am asking you if you can duplicate that; namely, that the preset & format items do not agree.

[Old Bruce]

20 minutes ago, R C-R said:

So again, I am asking you if you can duplicate that; namely, that the preset & format items do not agree.

I see what you mean.

I can, but I have to make a home rolled preset and give it the name of the existing preset with an added space after the name. Without the space after the existing preset name I wind up with a notice that the name is already taken.

[Pšenda]

27 minutes ago, R C-R said:

 DarkClown's screenshot the Preset is set to TIFF but the File Format just below it in the same panel is showing PNG.

There are more of those inconsistencies - note the greyscale and number of bits in the preset name.

 

P.S. No problem for Defaults.

Edited December 22, 2022 by Pšenda

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

P.S. No problem for Defaults.

Hmmm. For me, if I choose for example the TIFF Greyscale 8-bit preset from the default presets, the File Format field immediately changes to TIFF, & if I change the format to anything else like PNG, TIFF Greyscale 8-bit is removed from the Preset field. IOW, I cannot ever get a mismatch like the one you show in your screenshot.

So maybe this is a bug that affects only the Windows version?

[R C-R]

1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

I see what you mean.

I can, but I have to make a home rolled preset and give it the name of the existing preset with an added space after the name. Without the space after the existing preset name I wind up with a notice that the name is already taken.

I am not sure I understand what you are doing to get the mismatch. Are you saying that for example you can create a user-defined preset for example for a PNG formatted file & give the preset a name with a different format name in it like TIFF? That does not appear to be what DarkCloud did, unless maybe his TIFF Greyscale 8-bit preset actually has a space at the end we can't see.

[Old Bruce]

1 minute ago, R C-R said:

unless maybe his TIFF Greyscale 8-bit preset actually has a space at the end we can't see.

Yes. That is the only way I can get that to appear. 

[Pšenda]

43 minutes ago, R C-R said:

So maybe this is a bug that affects only the Windows version?

 

 

Edited December 22, 2022 by Pšenda

[R C-R]

@Pšenda, I cannot duplicate that behavior on my Mac running V2.0.3. As soon as I change the preset to TIFF, the format immediately changes to TIFF as well.

[Old Bruce]

@Pšenda,

Like what R C-R has just said. I cannot do that here on Mac OS 11.7.2

[Pšenda]

5 hours ago, R C-R said:

on my Mac

 

4 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

on Mac OS

??? "So maybe this is a bug that affects only the Windows version?" 

[R C-R]

25 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

??? "So maybe this is a bug that affects only the Windows version?" 

Are you asking if it is a Windows only problem or confirming that it is?

[DarkClown]

I can only confirm that it's a Windows issue ... (here Win10)