Mooxo Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I’ve got a document I can no longer open - every time I try it crashes Publisher and I have to Force Quit. The document worked yesterday. I reopened it today, and this happens. The same thing happens on a backup of the document from a couple of days ago. Other documents seem to work okay. The fact that yesterday it worked and today it doesn’t, even using a backup that is therefore the same document I started working on yesterday, is very odd. The document is something I’ve been working on for weeks, so restarting from scratch is not an option. Computer: M1 iMac, 16Gb RAM, Monterey 12.6.1. There are no external devices connected to the computer. Publisher: 1.10.5 I’ve tried turning off Metal compute acceleration, setting display to low res, and reducing display options all the way down to software only. On ‘software only’ I can work on the document, but it’s so slow it’s unusable. Every other setting just causes Publisher to freeze completely. Sometimes it shows as "Not Responding", sometimes it just freezes with a never-ending beachball. I’ve restarted the computer multiple times, and tried with only Publisher running and nothing else (not that memory is an issue according to Activity Monitor). The document is about 100Mb with embedded images, or 41Mb with linked images. Both versions cause the same problem. I cannot post the document publicly. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mooxo said: The same thing happens on a backup of the document from a couple of days ago If you have an earlier backup that works correctly, you may then be able to switch to ‘software only’ mode and import the other pages from the "duff" document Or wait until a moderator gives you are private upload link so they can see if the document opens OK for them Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Thanks. Tried that, doesn't work. Document still crashes as soon as I go back from Software only mode. To make matters worse, I've just tried resetting Publisher to default settings. When I start it, it won't let me sign in because Affinity's website is down for maintenance! Please tell me the sign it page is not going to be down until v2 is released tomorrow? I cannot now work on anything at all because I can't sign into the product! ETA: Discovered I can bypass the sign in screen - phew! Resetting didn't fix the problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mooxo said: Thanks. Tried that, doesn't work. Document still crashes as soon as I go back from Software only mode. Not sure exactly what you did, but to clarify If an old document works in non-software mode try importing pages from the "duff" document one by one or in batches (you may need to switch to "software only" mode to do this, if so you will need to switch back to non-software mode after each import to test the document) Hopefully, this procedure will help you narrow down the problem if a specific page is causing it and therefore you can just skip that page and redo it manually Tedious? Yes, but without seeing the document it's only guess work here Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Every version I have of this document, including the oldest backup, crashes, except in software-only mode. I've tried opening the oldest backup in software only, resaving it with zero changes to a new location under a new name, then opening it in regular (or at least OpenGL) mode, but it crashes. I've tried adding the newest pages to it in software only mode, but again it crashes in any other mode. So to clarify, the only way I can work on this document, including every backup version I have, is in software only mode, which is unusably slow. It would take weeks to complete the document in software only mode, but it will also take me weeks to recreate it from scratch. I can't seem to get a crash report out of Publisher (or Console.app) because it just hangs and has to be Force Quit each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted November 8, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 8, 2022 Hi @Mooxo, Could you upload the file to our Dropbox here. Also it would be worth seeing if the advice here helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Uploaded - thank you. (The display brightness suggestion made no difference). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted November 8, 2022 Staff Share Posted November 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Mooxo said: Uploaded - thank you. Yup that file doesn't seem happy at all. I'm also just getting a beachball straight away. I'll poke it some more, as i've had someone on the Team try opening it on Windows and seemed to open fine. So hopefully i can try a few things on Windows with the file and then try opening it on Mac and see if its any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 9, 2022 Author Share Posted November 9, 2022 Thanks. Anything you can do to get the file working would be very much appreciated. I'm sure you've tried it already, but for the sake of completeness, I have tried opening it in V2, and the problem persists there too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 I know you guys are busy with v2 now, but I just wanted to update this thread to say I've recovered some of the document. Having bought the fancy new universal licence, I tried installing the Windows version of Publisher in a VM on my iMac. It works great, but the document still crashed. So I deregistered that and installed it on a real Windows laptop. That was able to open the document without any problems. I tried a variety of things (removing master pages, splitting the document etc), and it seems most likely that like multiple embedded SVG files are the cause of the problem. I've managed to make a version of the file that contains almost everything except those embedded SVGs, and that opens correctly on the Mac. So I can use that as a basis to rebuild the document. Also for information: the document works on the iPad version. It's just the Mac it doesn't like. The iPad is an M2 version, so maybe it's the M1 it doesn't like. Thanks again for your earlier reply. I would never have thought to try Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Another update. I've spent three hours this morning rebuilding the document from what I could salvage via Windows. Everything worked perfectly. Until I closed it and then tried to re-open it. And then it cashed Publisher almost instantly. I had saved extra copies of the document about every half hour as I worked today, so I tried opening those. Exactly the same problem. I don't know what is causing this, but I think at this time I have to abandon the whole project. I've lost weeks of work and I don't want to lose more time on it. It's knocked my confidence in Publisher, though I've used the software for many bigger and more complex projects, so I hope it's just a one-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andregs Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Having the exact same problem. didi you manage to solve it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 Unfortunately not. In the end, from what I recall (it was almost a year ago), I managed to output a useable though imperfect PDF from the iPad version, based on what I salvaged via Windows. It was marginally better than losing the whole project. On the plus side, I have continued to use Publisher every day (I was too invested in it in terms of number of projects to switch back to InDesign), and this problem hasn’t occurred again on any other project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andregs Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 you recommend me to open the project in iPad and export a PDF so I can work on it? my problem is, if I remove all my linked files, it works.. when I link them... boom... can't respond.. tried moving folders, export the linked files to a new format.. nothing helped. Really frustating.. it is really bad inDesign is so expensive or I would already moved to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooxo Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 No. I'm saying the iPad version worked when working with the bad file. I was able to use it to output a PDF (which was my end goal), though it wasn't perfect but it was workable (the iPad version missed some features I needed). The iPad version and Windows version of Publisher both worked with the bad file. Only the Mac crashed. So if you're looking for a solution, if you have access to an iPad or Windows machine, it would be worth trying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andregs Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 yeah I will try on my iPad and windows. thanks very much for your input after so much months later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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