kai.wheatley Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 Hello - it's been a year since my last post on this same matter. I am going to sound whiny and probably rude - but why on earth have you STILL not added a freehand rotation? This is an incredibly simple (at least it seems like it should be!) feature, that is incredibly important to anyone doing any kind of drawing/painting, and I would think for photo editing as well. When drawing, users NEED to be able to flip the canvas freely any which way and at any angle in order to compensate for the lack of mobility when using a drawing tablet. Normally, on paper, artists flip the paper all over the place to make the best lines using the natural directional movements of our wrists/arms. Having to go up to the view menu, scroll down to "rotate left" or "rotate right" and to move in 15 degree increments (or ANY increments) is truly, TRULY unacceptable from a usability/workflow standpoint. If you guys want to compete with those scumbags at adobe, you NEED to get the simple things right, and usability/workflow is the #1 drawback for someone who is trying to make the switch. Even changing the order in which you perform actions changing can be a major drawback, and a lot of artists will just continue paying adobe, rather than trying to force themselves to retrain their brains to your arbitrary workflow decisions. I know you guys have added a lot of customization, which is great, but from my experience so far, all of that customization is basically meaningless when trying to make hotkeys/layout etc closer to photoshop. I REALLY REALLY want you guys to succeed and make a huge dent in adobe's userbase, but you will NOT do it unless you make it easy for longtime photoshop users to switch over. Just copy the hotkeys of photoshop, or at LEAST add in a "photoshop mode" that allows people to choose whether or not they want to use a layout/key map that matches photoshop, and for the love of all things good, ADD IN THE ABILITY TO ROTATE THE CANVAS FREELY.......................... PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You can add as many new fancy features as you want, that may even exceed what adobe has available, but I GUARANTEE you that none of those fancy features will be enough to motivate users to switch, if switching means a huge impedance to their workflow. Seriously, get the basics right and users will switch over for nothing but price alone, and after they switch they will appreciate the new fancy stuff.. but no one will get to the fancy stuff if the simple stuff isn't right. PLEASE............. focus on getting the basics and the workflow right... and please add in free rotation of the canvas. That is all. Quote
NotMyFault Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 Hi, i agree that there us room for improvement. Just to be sure, did you check all available options to rotate, e.g. by mouse wheel? Did you test the trackpad option? I don’t use a trackpad so can’t say what this option helps. To switch on/off document view rotation (for Trackpads): From Affinity Photo>Preferences (Tools option), check or uncheck Enable Canvas Rotation with Trackpad. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | MBP M3 Windows 11 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 | Dell 27“ 4K iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. I use iPad screenshots and videos even in the Desktop section of the forum when I expect no relevant difference.
walt.farrell Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 3 hours ago, NotMyFault said: Did you test the trackpad option? I don’t use a trackpad so can’t say what this option helps. I think that's Mac-only. For Windows, the mouse wheel is the only freehand option, as far as I know. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
kirk23 Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 37 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: For Windows, the mouse wheel is the only freehand option it works with Wacom Intuos ring too walt.farrell 1 Quote
Old Bruce Posted November 13, 2021 Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, kirk23 said: it works with Wacom Intuos ring too And if like me you have an Intous Touch tablet it works like the trackpad on a Mac. Really nice. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
kai.wheatley Posted November 14, 2021 Author Posted November 14, 2021 Thanks for the replies. I am using a wacom cintiq with a pen, so using the mouse wheel or track pad is not a solution for me. With photoshop, you can just hold R and drag either the mouse, or in my case, press the pen to the screen and drag. I don't have an intuos ring. @Old Bruce how do you do it with your tablet? Are you using your fingers or the pen? Quote
Old Bruce Posted November 14, 2021 Posted November 14, 2021 Fingers, there is a touch ability, I am not sure if the Cintiqs have this. Set up in OS Preferences for the tablet. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
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