Gadiel Camargo Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hello I need help to solve a problem, after exporting, my photos are coming out differently than what I see on my editing screen, both the editing and export are configured for the same ICC profile as sRGB IEC61966-2.1 but whenever I export the photo, the colors are different, I need help with this urgently as I have to deliver photos to my clients. This is a photo print on the software screen And this is a print of the photo after exported Please help me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 https://affinityspotlight.com/article/display-colour-management-in-the-affinity-apps/ Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadiel Camargo Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pšenda said: https://affinityspotlight.com/article/display-colour-management-in-the-affinity-apps/ My problem is totally different, my monitor is very well calibrated, within the software the color display is one and after exporting it changes, it is not the monitor's color profile, otherwise it would be logically the same both in the software and after exported, the color changes only after I export. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 Which app is used to view the exported images? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff stokerg Posted August 20, 2020 Staff Share Posted August 20, 2020 Hi @Gadiel Camargo, As Lagarto has asked, what app are you viewing the exported image in? Can you attach the afphoto file. Also can you just confirm if you start a blank new document, the canvas is white, this just confirm everything within Affinity is set correctly, that's all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadiel Camargo Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) I use the standard Windows viewer, do you have another one for me? Preferably free. Edited August 20, 2020 by Gadiel Camargo I answered this by accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadiel Camargo Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 10 hours ago, stokerg said: Oi @Gadiel Camargo, Como Lagarto perguntou, em qual aplicativo você está visualizando a imagem exportada? Você pode anexar o arquivo afphoto . Além disso, você pode apenas confirmar se você iniciar um novo documento em branco, a tela é branca, isso apenas confirme que tudo dentro de Afinidade está configurado corretamente, isso é tudo the standard Windows application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jowday Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Gadiel Camargo said: I use the standard Windows viewer, do you have another one for me? Preferably free. The images are fortunately completely identical. Microsofts own picture viewer does not use the monitor profile configured correctly in Windows! Imagine what kind of drooling amateur that made that decision in Redmond - and sticked to it ever since. Some feedback must have reached Microsoft. The new Microsoft Edge browser does use the monitor profile and suddenly Chrome did too (again). I wonder who helped who (Chromium engine in both). I guess these browsers can act as image viewers too. XnView is a fine suggestion - albeit a little slow compared to other programs. It will do just fine though for previewing a few images. If you should ever need to browse through hundreds of pictures on you computer FastPictureViewer Professional is more responsive and fun - 50$ (discount is fake, no rush). Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadiel Camargo Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Lagarto said: Windows Photos and other standard Windows image viewers are not color managed, so they show images at full color gamut of user's display, which typically is limited to sRGB or below, but many users have nowadays also wide-gamut displays that support AdobeRGB and other wider color spaces, and on those kinds of systems non-color managed apps like Windows Photos show images more saturated and brighter than what they they are when viewed with color managed apps like Affinity and Adobe apps. (The difference cannot be demonstrated well on this forum because color profiles are not supported.) Most browsers (though Firefox only if manually turned on) are also color managed so displaying images on the web could be one possibility to avoid problems with color. There are also free viewers, like XnView, that are color managed. Here are the color-profile related settings within that app. Should I use my monitor's viewing profile or the icc profile that I exported the photo to? Another problem is that when I post this photo on the internet, the colors remain the same as what I see in the windows viewer, what can it be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadiel Camargo Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 (edited) Now I can see the images with the colors equivalent to the Affinity Photo workspace, but when posted on the internet, the photo stays with the same colors as the colors that the Windows viewer displays, does anyone know why? Edited August 21, 2020 by Gadiel Camargo Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gadiel Camargo Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lagarto said: You should use here the display color profile, a calibrated system color profile. It should automatically be able to find this. Normally measured profiles are saved as .ICC or .ICM files under C:\Windows\System32\spool\drivers\color. [EDIT: And I see you managed to do so now...] Which browser are you using, and did you include a color profile in the file (JPG)? Chrome and Edge can read embedded JPG image color profiles, but in Firefox you need to turn the feature on. Note too that many web sites, like Affinity forum, strip off embedded color profiles, which means that you basically see everything in sRGB (most browsers revert to sRGB for images that do not have color profiles). This image shows the relative difference of using a non-color managed and color managed apps to view an sRGB red. On the right a Windows Photos rendering of sRGB 255 red (seen on the left) on a wide-color display is placed on top of an XnView rendering of the same image (the image is mapped to sRGB here but this shows the relative difference): I'm using the Opera GX browser but I tested it on Google Chrome too, I'm using the profile as the photo at the beginning of this topic, in theory it's the same profile supported on the internet, I sent it to Facebook and Behance and is changing colors, I can't understand why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jowday Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 On 8/21/2020 at 4:55 AM, Lagarto said: Opera is color managed. You can test a browser's color management capabilities at https://cameratico.com/tools/web-browser-color-management-test/. When this works right, you should be able to post on a web site JPGs with embedded color profiles and see them similarly as when viewing them with XnView and Affinity apps on your system. Images without a profile should be shown as if they had sRGB profile embedded. Only images that have your monitor display profile (or a close wide gamut profile) embedded should be shown similarly as Windows Photos shows them (at full color gamut of your display). If you do not experience this, I'd recommend that you recalibrate your display. If you have changed the system color display profile within your current Windows session, there is probably need to reboot the machine to ensure that the new profile is read properly by all apps. Latest version of Opera, Chrome and Microsoft Edge are finally all color managed (at least on my machine) - but Opera certainly was for longer. Try that for a start. Make sure XNView is configured to use the same monitor profile that is configured in Windows. That is the one Affinity is automatically using. Gadiel Camargo 1 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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