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Incorrect Typographic quotes conversion?

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I can't seem to get the right typographic quotes conversion.

In Preferences - Auto-Correct, I've enabled the options "Change straight quotes into typographic quotes" as well as "Support language depend single quotes ..."
I've set spelling checking to Dutch, which I installed manually and is functional.

When I type straight 'single quotes' or "double quotes" I expect these to be converted into typographic ‘single quotes’ or “double quotes”, respectfully.
Yet, somehow I get German style typographic ‚single quotes’ and „double quotes” with base opening quotes.

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I've made a small experiment extending the nl_NL.aff with two mappings, but that didn't work either.

It seems to me that the typographic quotes conversion is hard-coded to produce German style base opening quotes. Is this a bug?

Relevant specs:

  • Windows 10 (1909) (Dutch language)
  • AP 1.8.3.641

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Bump.
I'd be interested to learn if this some odd behaviour of Affinity Publisher when it's installed on a Dutch Windows 10 system, or if it's something that can be cured in a simple manner.

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It seems to happen whenever the spelling language is set to Dutch and the Autocorrect options are set to use typographic quotes.


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No, the Dutch language spelling checking and Dutch character style settings are not related to this issue. 

Before I installed the Dutch dictionaries, all my preferences were default English and I got the same German style typographic quotes. 

I suspect it has to do with AP on Dutch language Windows system. 

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1 minute ago, StephanP said:

German style typographic quotes

Just as a point of information, German-style quotes are like „this“ rather than „this” (i.e. the closing quotation mark looks like 66, not 99).


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4 hours ago, StephanP said:

I suspect it has to do with AP on Dutch language Windows system. 

Definitely not that, as my system is US English. But if I start a new document and specify Dutch for a block of text, I get the quotes you show.


-- Walt

Windows 10 Home, version 2004 (19041.388),
   Desktop: 16GB memory, Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz, GeForce GTX 970
   Laptop:  8GB memory, Intel Core i7-3625QM @ 2.30GHz, Intel HD Graphics 4000 or NVIDIA GeForce GT 630M
Affinity Photo 1.8.5.703 and 1.9.0.864 Beta   / Affinity Designer 1.8.5.703 and 1.9.0.864 Beta  / Affinity Publisher 1.8.5.703 and 1.9.0.863 Beta.

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Ok, I did some further testing and it's in the character style language alright. Not in the spelling checking. Apologies for the confusion.

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So, this seems to boil down to a Change request:

  • Could the Dutch character style be changed such that it converts quotes into English typographic quotes, because that's how they're supposed to be.

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