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56 minutes ago, loyukfai said:

BTW, how will a Kickstarter campaign work in these cases? We collect $$$ for Serif to fix their programs? Are they willing to take it in?

No, that is not how we are funded nor a way we wish to drive the suite forward. More hours in the day would help, can anyone crowd source that ?


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Our next beta of Affinity Publisher (build numbers > 1.8.4.649) will have changes/improvements in the area of punctuation, but we think this specialist area will need further improvements in the future.


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53 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:

Our next beta of Affinity Publisher (build numbers > 1.8.4.649) will have changes/improvements in the area of punctuation, but we think this specialist area will need further improvements in the future.

ok... I appreciate for punctuation implementation.
I know vertical writing takes a time but Affinity user group in Japan is receiving enormous amount of request for vertical writing.
Everyday people tell us "I want vertical writing, that's all I want!"
So the development schedule/status is really sensitive information.

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I really need more options on Japanese language in particular, "aki" (eg space between closing bracket and opening one) and punctuation corrections (vertical and horizontal)...
Hoping to see some implementations soon, I really love Affinity products! :))

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On 5/1/2020 at 7:03 PM, ashf said:

...Adobe's "mojikumi set" - word spacing rules...

Ashf, I think I may have over raised your expectations of the changes that can reasonably be expected in version 1. We will do what we can but these changes you are referring to are going to take a long while to match. Also I follow this thread, so no need to @ me


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18 minutes ago, Patrick Connor said:

Ashf, I think I may have over raised your expectations of the changes that can reasonably be expected in version 1. We will do what we can but these changes you are referring to are going to take a long while to match. Also I follow this thread, so no need to @ me

It's ok. I just explained you the final form of feature we need.
But would be nice if you could implement simplified version of it at first.
For example, Word has line breaking rules and word spacing rules that's simple and yet usable enough.
Basically Japanese word spacing rules compress spaces only on Latin characters and symbols.

 

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FYI This is Adobe's "Kinsoku set" -  line breaking rules setting, little more complex than Word's

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@loyukfaiHave you checked the latest Publisher 1.8.4 beta?
It's got simple Asian line breaking rules.
You gotta test as soon as possible to make it usable quicker.

P.S. there's no UI for it.

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@Patrick ConnorDo you think you can add very simple word spacing rules soon?
Line breaking rules and word spacing rules are mean to work together so if you can add it soon, it make line breaking rules really usable.

For very basic one

These should be 50% width(no redundant space) if it's at the start of a line* or the right side of other brackets/punctuation or next to spaces.
([{〈《「『【〔〖〘〚)]}〉》」』】〕〗〙〛

* these can't be at the start of a line by line breaking rules as you know.
)]}〉》」』】〕〗〙〛

Or for very very basic one

These should be 50% width(no redundant space) if it's at the start of a line.
([{〈《「『【〔〖〘〚

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Personally I don't use vertical layout much but yes, it's very, very common for Chinese, and that includes peoples in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Still wondering why Affinity doesn't adopt HarfBuzz...

Cheers.

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5 hours ago, loyukfai said:

Personally I don't use vertical layout much but yes, it's very, very common for Chinese, and that includes peoples in Taiwan and Hong Kong.

Yeah, me too. I mostly work with website related thing so vertical writing is not necessary.
But since almost 100% of publications including media such as book, magazine or newspaper in Japan is using vertical writing so people always put Affinity down just because of it.
Really pain to see it. I wish vertical writing didn't exist.

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