Refine Selection

[jbrent]

I have a photo of a house with a tree in front of it and extending above the roof line and into the sky background.  I want to replace the sky. I make a selection of the sky with the tree.  When I try to refine the selection, the tree area, ie limbs,  is not completely defined leaving red background on the sky area.  I have tried changing settings like border & ramp but to no avail.  Any suggestions on how to get a clean refinement on the tree limbs????  I have included 3 screenshots showing the problem.  Any help would be appreciated.

[tongcreator]

When you encounter issues like this, this is when you brush onto areas. Notice the section in the refinement panel that says 'Adjustment Brush?" Make sure Matte is selected and paint over the areas of the tree that you would like Affinity to look at. It will re-analyze those areas and do a much better job.

[Cecil]

6 minutes ago, tongcreator said:

When you encounter issues like this, this is when you brush onto areas. Notice the section in the refinement panel that says 'Adjustment Brush?" Make sure Matte is selected and paint over the areas of the tree that you would like Affinity to look at. It will re-analyze those areas and do a much better job.

Extremely difficult to remove tree, with the amount of limbs and colors displayed, even though covered up with red mask or refine mode.  Improvement I hope in 1.8 release.

[tongcreator]

Just now, Cecil said:

Extremely difficult to remove tree, with the amount of limbs and colors displayed, even though covered up with red mask or refine mode.  Improvement I hope in 1.8 release.

Would you mind if you could send me this image? I'd like to give it a try and let you know what happens.

 

[Cecil]

Just now, tongcreator said:

Would you mind if you could send me this image? I'd like to give it a try and let you know what happens.

 

If successful, please post video.  I’m sure you would assist many users.

[tongcreator]

1 minute ago, Cecil said:

If successful, please post video.  I’m sure you would assist many users.

Will do. Please upload the image and I will start refining it.

[Cecil]

Just now, tongcreator said:

Will do. Please upload the image and I will start refining it.

Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done.  jbrent OP

[tongcreator]

3 minutes ago, Cecil said:

Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done.  jbrent OP

Oh okay. I will see you tomorrow likely if not tonight. 

 

[HVDB Photography]

I think channel selection will do a better job ...

 

[tongcreator]

On 1/30/2020 at 9:02 PM, Cecil said:

Sorry not my photo, just need to see how it’s done.  jbrent OP

Hey, just letting you know that I have not forgot about you. I am working on it right now and will get back to you tomorrow.

[Granddaddy]

Have you seen these tutorials?  The first five involve tree branches and leaves. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZ9H7eYWvo   [Affinity Photo] Removing background from Trees (Leaves selection)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2cucrtUFWE    Remove background of trees in affinity photo (This one uses channels.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsxghAYrlA    How to remove tree background in affinity photo (Using Blend Options)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2NcxyuUs0   Stacked Threshold Masking (using Affinity Photo) (From InAffinity)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0uIofCR3FE    Affinity Photo Tutorial. Remove/ exchange background

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJ0jypAE2k   How to remove background around lots of hair | Affinity Photo【 Updated tutorial 】  (Fly around hair, but maybe more complex than some}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNkyNKoKroU  Selecting Hair (and Changing the Background) with Affinity Photo (From InAffinity, hair against a landscape)

 

And we can always learn from users of the app that shall not be named using channels here also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbmrGwkYJs         Crazy Trick To Replace Sky in Seconds! - Photoshop Tutorial

 

[Cecil]

@Granddaddy I was actually referring to the OP.  Many YouTube tutorials have simple backgrounds to improve Inpainting/Refine Selections.  Removing the OP example is another matter that Inpainting/Refine Sections struggles to remove unwanted pixels.  

 

 

[firstdefence]

1 hour ago, Granddaddy said:

Have you seen these tutorials?  The first five involve tree branches and leaves. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdZ9H7eYWvo   [Affinity Photo] Removing background from Trees (Leaves selection)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2cucrtUFWE    Remove background of trees in affinity photo (This one uses channels.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsxghAYrlA    How to remove tree background in affinity photo (Using Blend Options)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2NcxyuUs0   Stacked Threshold Masking (using Affinity Photo) (From InAffinity)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0uIofCR3FE    Affinity Photo Tutorial. Remove/ exchange background

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJ0jypAE2k   How to remove background around lots of hair | Affinity Photo【 Updated tutorial 】  (Fly around hair, but maybe more complex than some}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNkyNKoKroU  Selecting Hair (and Changing the Background) with Affinity Photo (From InAffinity, hair against a landscape)

 

And we can always learn from users of the app that shall not be named using channels here also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgbmrGwkYJs         Crazy Trick To Replace Sky in Seconds! - Photoshop Tutorial

 

My fav sky replacement technique is blend ranges, it's also the most realistic. done right a sky replacement is almost undetectable.

[jbrent]

I also use blend ranges for sky replacements.  It just bothers me that the refining tool is so inconsistent.  Thanks for the tutorials.

[tongcreator]

10 hours ago, jbrent said:

I also use blend ranges for sky replacements.  It just bothers me that the refining tool is so inconsistent.  Thanks for the tutorials.

Using the flood fill tool(make sure it is on Add mode) over and over is a method. Here is the result I got.