andmocychmen Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 Hello, I am looking for the equivalent of inset and outset in Inkscape. Can't find anything related in AD. There's something like that right? Quote
walt.farrell Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 1 hour ago, BenjiGameDev said: I am looking for the equivalent of inset and outset in Inkscape. Can't find anything related in AD. There's something like that right? You could look at the Gaussian Blur layer effect. (Layer > Layer Effects... in the menu, or the fx icon at the bottom of the Layers panel). Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
GarryP Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 My understanding is that Inset and Outset are nothing like Gaussian Blur. Inset/Outset take a shape and make it smaller/bigger (respectively) in respect to the original shape. A bit like a person getting thinner or fatter. See here: https://inkscape.org/doc/tutorials/advanced/tutorial-advanced.html (and scroll down). There’s currently no Inset/Outset function in Designer (or the other Affinity apps) but you can sort of mock them by expanding a stroke and doing some editing. Not neat, but usable in some case. Quote
v_kyr Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 See also: Inkscape - Path Offsetting (Inset/Outset) Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
GarryP Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 Here’s a very quick and crude example where the black line is the original shape, the orange shape is “Inset” and the blue shape is “Outset”. The Lasso selection mode of the Node Tool is very useful for this. andmocychmen 1 Quote
v_kyr Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 The AD FX outline effect can partly visual emulate this behavior via the radius and allignment (inside/middle/outside) settings. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
walt.farrell Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 I may have been confusing it with Inset-Outset Halo (which is used to blur). If so, sorry. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
GarryP Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 Walt: Ah, I see what you mean. The Inset/Outset the OP is asking about seems to be the non-blurring functionality as shown in the screenshot but I could be wrong (they may have given the wrong screenshot, easily done). Quote
firstdefence Posted December 24, 2019 Posted December 24, 2019 This may help to understand the Inkscape commands Offset paths: http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Paths-Editing.html#Paths-Offsets Basically the only way to create a similar effect in Affinity is to use strokes of a given size and expand them, so inset would be to align the stroke to the inside and then expand the stroke, and outset would be to align the stroke to the outside and expand. You expand the stroke by using the (main menu at the top) Layer > Expand Stroke. There is no specific offset path feature in Affinity apps at the moment. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
andmocychmen Posted December 25, 2019 Author Posted December 25, 2019 Thanks all, A little bummed this feature isn't there but the Expand workaround is usable. So I did: draw shape 1. duplicate shape 1 as shape 2. add stroke to shape 2. modify thickness of stroke of shape 2 as desired (observing inside our outside of stroke as required). expand shape 2 as shape 3. delete shape 2. duplicate shape 1 as shape 4. subtract shape 1 to shape 4 or vice versa as required. Kinda convoluted, especially for large pieces of work like world maps where each region would have inset and outset borders in land and sea respectively. That's going to be a real pain in the bubu. It'd be nice to have this in AD. Quote
firstdefence Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 @BenjiGameDev Totally agree, I'm sure It will be added at some point but possibly not until version 2 but hopefully sooner if we offer blood sacrifices to the Affinity features fairies on the last day of tomorrow andmocychmen 1 Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
Move Along People Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 GarryP and andmocychmen 2 Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here
GarryP Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 That looks great. I think a lot of people will be happy when that comes. Shame, for me at least, that they are using Twitter - which I don't use - to give these things an airing. Would be nice to see them here. Quote
Move Along People Posted December 25, 2019 Posted December 25, 2019 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here
Atreides Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 On 12/24/2019 at 12:18 PM, BenjiGameDev said: Hello, I am looking for the equivalent of inset and outset in Inkscape. Can't find anything related in AD. There's something like that right? Not sure if it will be still useful for you, but for anyone else who is looking for the same function in Affinity. I found out, how to do this: You have to select nodes you want to transform and toggle transform mod. Then you drag any corner while holding shift+ctrl - this is how you can scale your rectangle up or down while it stays centered (holding shift makes the rectangle keeps its proportions while holding ctrl makes it centered on its original place). You can scale rectangle as you wish and you dont lose any nodes as it may happen with using inset/outset in inkscape. True, this is not so fast as in Inkscape, but bit more flexible on other hand. Hope this helps :) Quote
sfriedberg Posted May 12, 2020 Posted May 12, 2020 Unfortunately, scaling a vector is not the same thing as offsetting a vector. For a simple shape like a circle or a square, you get the same results. For text or any object with some concavity, the results are very, very different. Creating contours in CorelDRAW is something I do reasonably often, and it would be nice to have the capability in Affinity Designer. andmocychmen and AllAppsUser 2 Quote
dvelh Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 Trying to find path inset/outset as well. It's still not there after AD2 update? Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 3, 2024 Posted February 3, 2024 Does the Contour Tool provide this? I think it's new since the question was asked. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
dvelh Posted February 4, 2024 Posted February 4, 2024 Hi, Yes I found it already as I found another thread about this same topic. They mentioned something about upcoming "contour tool". I decided to try my luck and went through the tools in the left-hand tools panel and found it was already there. It's doing exactly the thing i'm looking for. I'm coming from Illustrator and and if you menu-dive in there you would find it's called inset & outset path. As a non native English speaker I have no idea how the word "contour" describes what the tool does but I'm glad I found it after all Thanks! walt.farrell 1 Quote
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