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Thank You Serif for providing a fix for this in Beta 249 by adding the option to add a "narrow non-breaking space" as well as maintaining the original add non-breaking space. Your attention to detail is an inspiration to us all. Thank you.

Thanks to everyone who replied, it's appreciated. Libre Training you have hit the nail on the head -- it's a font issue. Interesting any font that is "font name" BT and the spaces are wide. Other, non BT, fonts and the spacing seems perfect. I have hundreds of fonts on my system and an awful lot are of the BT variety. So basically it's a big problem. Now the issue is whether Publisher is at fault with these fonts or not? It is hard for me to imagine that the whole BT font category is somehow flawed. Perhaps the Devs can investigate further? I think that about covers it for now. Thanks you again for the replies. Finally I love what Serif are doing with the Affinity product range. Publisher is shaping up very well. Keep up the great work Serif, you are onto a big winner here.

The font is Charter BT 10 pt on 12 leading. The text frame is part of a linked sequence and the text is set Left. Everything else text-wise normal, default settings. Nothing special going on here. If you check the screen grab from within Publisher you will see the NBS as previously indicated. Please remember that all these three names are automatically text-wrapped within the frame boundaries which is why they appear at the start of each line. However I have just reduced the right side of the frame to allow the text to re-wrap and the same wide spaces apply. (see new screen shot below). I hope this provides some further assistance. Thank you.

Please look at the enclosed attachment enlarged screen shot. Look at the normal spaces between the words, in this case real names, and then compare to the non-breaking spaces added between the names "Trevor Horn; Boris Blank; and Tan Dun". Clearly you can see that these NBS are noticeably wider. This problem exists within Publisher (the latest beta 238) and the previous version too. This problem was identified from viewing an exported 300dpi pdf. Thank you.

Thank you. That's very helpful.

The title says it all. I'm resorting to using FastStone Image Viewer to quickly resize my digital pictures to 20% for attaching to emails -- when I want to use Affinity Photo! Please add this option. Thank you.

I recently discovered three hidden and "unknown" text frames in a document using the Font Manager and Locate enabled me to discover them, by accident! Publisher needs some option/function to discover and display "hidden" unwanted objects that lurk within a document. It was a shock for me to discover these text frames that had remained hidden within the "Final" version of the work and could cause serious output issues. If three large text frames were hidden then what else could be there, unwanted? CorelDraw has the ability to "wireframe" everything so any rogue item can be spotted and removed. Publisher needs the ability to display ALL items on and off the page spread. Forgive me if there is already some ability/function to do this, if there is perhaps someone would be kind enough to show me how. Thank you. I love the way Publisher is shaping up. Great work so far.

I think I have solved the issue causing this problem. Updating to Beta 128 I discovered the Document "Font Manager". It showed me that I had used Aerial and Aerial Italic in the document. (I had no recollection of using this in the layout!). Using the "Located" option it took me to a hidden and undiscovered text frame that spanned part of the document spread and a large section of the pasteboard. The text frame was empty (it contained no text) and was not linked to any other text frames in the document. I deleted it only to find another two similar text frames which were then deleted. I can only assume that this was the cause of the "text overflow" message. However the fact that "unknown" text frames remained hidden in the document is a cause for great concern to me. Publisher needs some kind of option to display such hidden and undetected objects so they can be analysed and removed accordingly. I will post this again as a future feature request. Thank you.

Hi Chris and thanks for the response. The text was copied from my Blog/Web site and stored in a LibraOffice Writer Doc (native odt format) for backup purposes. From this I copied and pasted the text into the Publisher Booklet document. The section in question was spread across 22 linked text frames. It is possible that some rogue formatting remained hidden within this block of text, and it's possible that this might be the cause of the problem -- I don't really know to be honest. Perhaps I need to copy the publisher document strip out the text and try again. The only thing is I am busy right now and it might be several days before I can reply further. In passing I was very impressed with what I managed to achieve in Publisher, in the first Beta. Great work, it can only keep getting better. I have a lot of faith in you guys. I hope some of the features in Publisher (like the drop-down font display, and the ability to move the ruler settings to any point on the page, just to name two) make it back into the upcoming Designer update. Thanks.

I had the same problem following the update to 58. However it was a right hand side of a spread pages 6 & 7 in a 58 page document. The text and pictures were still there in the frame but the BG setting (from a Master Page Spread) was gone. I resolved it by creating another spread following the effected page and simply moved the text boxes down into it (the text flow links remained intact) and then deleting the dodgy page but also there were three rogue horizontal guide lines on the replacement page which I could not drag off the spread. But I used the "Guide Manager" to delete them OK. Looks like some kind of bug to me?

Just as a brief follow up. I hate to say it but most people when they "lay-out" a word-processed document to look decent and "professional" do not even use the provided tools to do so. (I mean correct placement and use of Tabs, spaces, paragraph line indents and margins, paragraph spacing and the like.) I've regularly received documents by other company personnel who have clearly spent hours laying them out to look decent to impress their boss. When I have received them and opened them I am shocked at the complete layout mess that is revealed. I then have to strip-out all their messed up formatting so I can do a decent job my end. Unfortunately I have often had to convert the whole job to simple text format just to start again from scratch -- yes it's been that bad! Trained personnel who submit copy to publishing houses and design studios know about this and simply supply text without formatting except for paragraph returns. This makes it easy for them and easy for the designer to work very efficiently. Just flow it in and away you go. Yes I agree that decent formatting of word-processed docs, can be helpful, but unfortunately there is a HUGE difference between professionally designed layouts and those done by most untrained personnel. That difference is called "Typography" which, let's be honest, is not a word we hear much about these days. Clearly, I am a big supporter of Typography and will remain so, after all it's part of my job.

Agreed. I've had no end of problems importing supplied formatted text into linked text frames across multiple pages. It should flow like water with no issues. It used to be a joy to work with copy supplied by pro journalists, there was never any problems and saved me hours of time when up against a deadline. So it's swings-and-roundabouts, both formatted and unformatted text have advantages according to the job in question. But searching through formatted text looking for those rogue hidden characters that screw-up the layout is a real pain that's for sure.

I agree with this too. I used to design CD packaging artwork for record companies and this involved all types of CD booklet designs like multiple page fold-outs, and the like. A lot of the artwork I had to adapt originated in America and the contents were way beyond the normal two-page spread, including various versions of digi-pack packaging. For serious creative work I'm afraid to say that in this Beta release, at least, Publisher doesn't cut it. Unless Affinity allow for a far better creative Master Page/Page layout facility then they won't take the throne from the competition. It's really that simple. Serif -- are you listening?

Thanks for pointing that out and providing the correct link. I have just corrected my post accordingly so it works as expected.

Martin Brinkmann at https://www.ghacks.net/ has just mentioned Affinity Publisher on his excellent technical site which will no doubt spread the word to an awful lot of new people. The comments below the article are a bit disparaging, but hey these days the technical world is populated with a cynical bunch of world-weary people, so there you go. I find ghacks site a valuable resource for up-to-date technical info, and in passing I have to say I have discovered some excellent free and useful software too! And so my friends might you.