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I'm certain this has been discussed before but I can't find the thread. In my new Publisher project, I have a placed a background created in Designer. I don't see a way to "Edit in Designer", ie. open the linked file in Designer and make changes.

If I double-click the linked file in Publisher, it opens the graphic in a new window within Publisher and I can edit it, however when I then open the original linked file in Designer, none of the changes have been made! I didn't discover this oddity until I made a bunch of changes to the background in Publisher. This really defeats the purpose of have a linked file. If I sent the linked file to someone else without knowing my edits aren't in it, no good would come from it.

So the workaround now appears to be to manually open the Designer file, make changes, then switch back to Publisher where I then have to manually tell it to update the link in the Resources window. I'm sure there are ways this could be automated slightly, unless I've missed a command to "edit in Designer"?

It would be great if the edits I made to the linked graphic right in Publisher would take hold in the actual file.

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You're right.

File > Edit in Designer will take the complete Publisher file to Designer, but that's not what you want/need.

Double-clicking a linked image file would open it in a new Publisher tab, and any edits you make would be saved back to the original file, and updated in Publisher automatically or manually.

But double-clicking a linked document file will result in the changes bring saved only locally.

There was a time during the beta when double-clicking an embedded image file worked that same way: updates were saved only locally.

I miss that ability, which was removed late in the beta cycle, about the time that editing of linked image files was enabled, I think.

We know that document files aren't truly linked, yet. They're a cross between linked (external updates are detected, and maybe applied (I don't remember)), but the Publisher file is not smaller, so they're really still embedded.

I think Serif is still looking at that situation. Maybe when they resolve it they'll also provide what you've asked for, too.

-- Walt
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39 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Double-clicking a linked image file would open it in a new Publisher tab, and any edits you make would be saved back to the original file, and updated in Publisher automatically or manually.

But double-clicking a linked document file will result in the changes bring saved only locally.

What is the difference between these 2, please? Image file vs. document file. My placed file is a Designer file.

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6 minutes ago, Jeremy Bohn said:

What is the difference between these 2, please? Image file vs. document file. My placed file is a Designer file.

A designer file is a document. Images are JPEG, TIFF, or PNG. Raster-based files, in other words.

They behave differently, and you can distinguish them by selecting a placed file with the Move Tool and seeing whether you get "Edit image" or "Edit Document" in the Context Toolbar.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7

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1 hour ago, Jeremy Bohn said:

I'm certain this has been discussed before but I can't find the thread.

Hi @Jeremy Bohn,

this was discussed in this thread starting about here:

It was about an Affinity Photo file but relates to your question. The post starts out with 'I also am confused' :)

I think this has something to do with the current early status of APub and StudioLink. Even though I think the whole concept was thought out well it appears to have some rough edges. One of them is what your finding is.

I sincerely hope Serif will be able to streamline the workflow and will listen to (our) user experiences and feedback.

d.

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