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I'm wondering if there is a bug – or whether tabulator characters are actually used differently (as in the text (shown as double >>)) compared to a table (as a single>).

When I copy/paste a tabbed text from a text frame into a table with no cell selected but with cursor in the first cell then all text from the pasteboard, tab-chars included, appear within the first cell. Instead I would expect all tab-chars from pasteboard to get converted as next-cell-signals, like it happens when all cells get selected before paste. (and like it works in Excel f.i.)

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Are there different sorts of "tab" in Text vs. Table?
If yes, is there a way to select those separately, for instance to find & replace just one kind? It appears that F&R does not find those tab-chars which mark a cell-change.

When I select all cells in those two tables and copy/paste into text frames then I get to the origin text with a different amount of tab-chars only.

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You don't need to select all the cells to get the behavior you want. You need at least two cells selected.

Publisher has always worked that way.

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56 minutes ago, thomaso said:

(as in the text (shown as double >>)) compared to a table (as a single>).

I'm not seeing any single > characters

58 minutes ago, thomaso said:

When I select all cells in those two tables and copy/paste into text frames then I get to the origin text with a different amount of tab-chars only.

I'm not seeing that either. Do you have screenshots of this?

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44 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

You don't need to select all the cells to get the behavior you want. You need at least two cells selected. 

Walt, thank you. I haven't been aware of this. – It's even a little different, and easier:

Now I noticed that the text cursor hovering over a table cells near a cells edge changes to black arrow. When I click in that moment the boarder(s) get selected + the cell, too. (UI: dark blue stroke + light blue fill)

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So, with just one cell selected I am able to paste the tabbed text from pasteboard in the expected way to make the text run into the cells instead of stick in one cell only. It does not matter which cell egde got selected (top/right/bottom/left).

 

 

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48 minutes ago, carl123 said:

I'm not seeing any single > characters

I see the single > in table cells only & only one per cell (different to the double >>)

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55 minutes ago, carl123 said:
1 hour ago, thomaso said:

When I select all cells in those two tables and copy/paste into text frames then I get to the origin text with a different amount of tab-chars only.

I'm not seeing that either. Do you have screenshots of this?

The different amount of >> results from the different amount in the tables content. All selected cells, even empty, create one >> in the text frame after paste. It is expected behaviour, I just mentioned it to show the different ocurence and convertion of single > into double >>.

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Ok, this is what I get.  I think this may be due to a difference between MAC and Windows. 

On Windows I do not see the single > character in my tables

 

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