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If I clone stuff with "Force pixel alignment" turned off I get very blurry results. Is this normal? I Just want to know if there's something wrong on my side or if it's supposed to work like that.

Thanks in advance!

Aleksandar Mitov
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What kind of stuff? What application?

Blurry on-screen, or after export?

Example files or screenshots?

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Sorry for being vague. It happens in Affinity Photo when I clone out stuff in a pixel layer. Please check the attached screenshot.

 

aphoto_cloning_forcePixelAlignmentOff_blurry.jpg

Aleksandar Mitov
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Posted

Thanks for the example.

Are you sure it's related to having Force Pixel Alignment off?

I wonder, for example, if it's more related to the subject matter and having Hardness set to 0. But without your original image I can't easily test that theory.

-- Walt
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19 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I wonder, for example, if it's more related to the subject matter and having Hardness set to 0.

I think that is the red brush to draw the loop around the area.

3 hours ago, Alex_M said:

If I clone stuff with "Force pixel alignment" turned off I get very blurry results. Is this normal? 

As @walt.farrell asked, What sort of brush settings are you using? I find results vary greatly according to subject as well. If it is the lawn causing you problems then you may have better luck there with the Inpainting Brush Tool, it is in with the bandages tools.

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I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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Attached are a screenshot of the brush settings and a part of the image where you can do tests on. BTW, doesn't brush hardness control how hard the edges of the brush are, not how sharp the cloned stuff will come out?

brush_settings.jpg

clone_blurry.afphoto

Aleksandar Mitov
www.renarvisuals.com CGI and 3D rendering services
email: office@renarvisuals.com

Affinity Photo 2.6.3  Windows 10 Pro x64 ver. 22H2  AMD Ryzen 9950X 16-core + 96 GB DDR5  GeForce RTX 5090 32GB + driver 572.83

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17 minutes ago, Alex_M said:

BTW, doesn't brush hardness control how hard the edges of the brush are, not how sharp the cloned stuff will come out?

But if the brush has a soft edge, the cloned data would also appear soft, e.g. blurred, especially if using small brushes where you'd have more edges building up in the result area. Thanks for the sample file; I'll try to play with it later.

-- Walt
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PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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Posted
4 minutes ago, >|< said:

That's normal in Affinity.

Ok, thanks for confirming!

 

Just now, walt.farrell said:

But if the brush has a soft edge, the cloned data would also appear soft, e.g. blurred, especially if using small brushes where you'd have more edges building up in the result area.

I used a very large brush and cloned a very big blob, making several strokes over the same area. So I'm positive it's not the brush hardness. Again, it's perfectly sharp once I enable Force pixel alignment.

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email: office@renarvisuals.com

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