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Affinity Publisher 2, version 2.5.5 - the latest version
macOS Sequoia 15.0.1. - the latest version
Macbook Pro 16", 2023.

For some reason, text is duplicated on the screen and in the exported PDF. Better said, the text does not physically exist, it just appears as a copy. It is the last line on the page, always only one line. By changing the alignment of the text box, the duplicate does not move, regardless of whether the box is top align, justify or otherwise.
I tried to change all possible settings in hardware acceleration, that doesn't solve the problem.
The same problem appears in the third book I'm working on, I have to look page by page because I discovered this in an already printed book and it created a big problem. If this is not corrected, it will be a big problem for further work in Affinity publisher...

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There isn't anything to see in these screenshots, we can't see any of the formatting settings, especially Paragraph > Flow Options. A fuller screenshot would be useful.

Whenever something odd is happening, the first thing to look at is the flow options for the paragraph in question and the paragraphs above and below. You should also turn on View > Show Special Characters to understand better what's going on.

Good luck

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Look also in the Layers panel if there is no mismatch between Master pages and Pages layers… 

Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To

I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.

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3 hours ago, Bojan-MDN said:

Used sample text from Word

If you can make it happen with that sample text, then it would be useful for you to use Save As under a new name and give us that .afpub file.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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It's probably the keep with next 1 line setting. Is that set for the paragraph above 1985 or just for 1985?

If you could share screenshots of the flow settings for the paragraph above, for 1985, and for the paragraph after, we might be able to sort this out without seeing the document. But if 1985 is showing up on two pages then it's a bug and Serif may need to see the document to understand it.

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5 minutes ago, Bojan-MDN said:

Is there a way to send the problematic document privately?

Serif staff can provide a private upload link when they get to this topic.

Thanks for trying to duplicate with the sample data.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1

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Additional explanation:

I can edit the year 1985 on page 62. When I try to select that year, it is selected on the previous page, at the bottom.

Also, when I try to edit the year on page 61, the cursor moves to the correct year on page 62.

The year that "physically" does not exist definitely appears on page 61.

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The flow options look okay to me.

I haven't seen this bug before and I think it best you wait for Serif to respond, I think they will want to see this one.

For now, it should be easy enough to work around - replace the paragraph break at the end of the previous paragraph with a column break.

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I hope someone at Serif sees this. I repeat, this is the third book in which this has happened to me. Thank you very much for your help, I needed someone to confirm that everything is OK from my side. After 32 years of working in graphics, it would be strange if it were different 🙂

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3 minutes ago, Bojan-MDN said:

I hope someone at Serif sees this. I repeat, this is the third book in which this has happened to me. Thank you very much for your help, I needed someone to confirm that everything is OK from my side. After 32 years of working in graphics, it would be strange if it were different 🙂

It's a busy day/week due to the release of the long-awaited 2.6 beta with some huge changes, so please be patient.

But if you put in a manual break it will work and you won't have duplicated text.

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That's right, that solved the problem, for now :) I just hope that it will be solved globally because it's quite difficult and demanding to look at each page, with the fear that by chance something similar will not happen again in another place.

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This has nothing to do with your topic but I noticed that you used Leading override in the Characters panel > Position & Transform (the value is not between brackets).
In short, you should probably not use that and better set it to [Auto], then you change the leading in the Paragraph panel only. ;) 

 

 

 

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I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.

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I'm very happy! 

Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To

I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.

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If you still have it, it could be interesting to keep a faulty version of your document in case Serif's team comes across this topic and provides a private download link: it's nevertheless a certainly not wanted side effect of Leading override settings. 

Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To

I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.

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I'm boring but still let me know the following:
Again, I am less happy — I made a copy of the document and put all the Leading override styles on the auto. And just in case I did the same throughout the text selection. The problem still appears. But at least I learned what I shouldn't do. Still, we wait for the Serif...

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  • 2 weeks later...
29 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Hi @Bojan-MDN,

Feel free to upload the problematic file to the private upload link below and we can investigate further.

https://www.dropbox.com/request/KQ8a7u743v0qIZjYR0fl

Let me know once it's uploaded. 🙂

NathanC,
I have uploaded a folder with files. In the folder there is a file explanation.txt with a description of the problem.
Thanks for the answer and interest!
Best regards,
Bojan

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Hi @Bojan-MDN,

Thanks for uploading the files, I've installed the necessary fonts but the text on page 61 appears to be in a completely different place than what's shown in your screenshots, the last point on page 61 is .196 and the year shown is 1984.  I have all the fonts installed (other than 'Times' and 'Times Regular'), but I don't have your spelling/hyphenation dictionaries so i'm wondering if this may be why, could you possibly provide me with these?

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19 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Hi @Bojan-MDN,

Thanks for uploading the files, I've installed the necessary fonts but the text on page 61 appears to be in a completely different place than what's shown in your screenshots, the last point on page 61 is .196 and the year shown is 1984.  I have all the fonts installed (other than 'Times' and 'Times Regular'), but I don't have your spelling/hyphenation dictionaries so i'm wondering if this may be why, could you possibly provide me with these?

Hi NathanC,

I sent you on Dropbox the spelling/hyphenation dictionaries used in the document...

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