Different Hatching(s) on plans and mappings

[Uwe-R-aus-B]

For one of my clients, also using all Affinity apps, which makes him very happy, I am asking for a solution to let him do hatching(s) in a way that he can use just one pattern.

The coloured areas should have the hatchings in different ways.

We know how to create patterns. We know to "check" for the group:

 

 

We created a pattern like this:

How can we solve it?

Is there a solution? Our solutions look strange and we are unable to scale up or down without losing the hatchings settings.

 

I added two afpub files - just in case - to try to check.

 

Thanks in advance and Kind Regards,

Uwe

 

 

 

 

 

20240902 Kartierung Glockenstube.afpub Kartierung Homepage.afpub

[walt.farrell]

36 minutes ago, Uwe-R-aus-B said:

et him do hatching(s) in a way that he can use just one pattern.

The coloured areas should have the hatchings in different ways.

I'm probably confused, but I don't understand what you mean by "in different ways". Are you talking just about scaling?

Can you show an example of what you want to accomplish?

[joe_l]

58 minutes ago, Uwe-R-aus-B said:

Is there a solution? Our solutions look strange and we are unable to scale up or down without losing the hatchings settings.

I am bit confused too. You do not want to scale, because the lines of your pattern should always have the same distance to each other or something like that? If this is the case ... all the drawings have more or less the same dimensions, so I would create patterns with the dimension of the drawings, so I don't have to scale them, but to place them 1:1 into the different areas e.g. as assets.

[Uwe-R-aus-B]

All hatchings in that one mapping should have a kind of relation to each other in a way that all hatchings for different issues (good structure – bad structure – fungus structure – "must be changed" structure – "can be changed"-structure – wooden structure – concrete structure – "natural stone"-structure – and so on.

There's one tutorial from James : 

but this is not a good way in this case. And it is in Affinity Photo, and to have a pattern layer across the whole page might be difficult in handling later.

Tobias, the client, looks for a plan in order to show how it should look like at the end.

 

Thanks for getting in and Kind Regards,

Uwe

[dominik]

12 minutes ago, Uwe-R-aus-B said:

All hatchings in that one mapping should have a kind of relation to each other

 

Hello @Uwe-R-aus-B,

do you mean that this relation to each other includes that the hatchings can be modified after they have been applied? E.g. changing their colour or line thickness.

In that case you could look into Symbols as hatching patterns. They could be clipped into areas. But clipping only works with closed objects. After looking at your sample document I notice that many beams are created from multiple lines. These look like closed objects, technically they are multiple objects. And the above won't work.

I suggest you try it with a simple rectangle to see if this could work.

d.

[Uwe-R-aus-B]

I will check with Tobias on how to close those forms. I guess, as you mentioned, that they are "open", single lines. BTW might be created out of a dwg or dxf file.

But before I asume too much, let's see what he has to tell about it. 

May I ask - anyway - Symbols?

Tobias finally needs(wants) (maybe 10 to 12 - maybe more maybe less) different patterns to use in different scaled plans/mappings.

But of course he or one does not want to do this over and over again for each scaled plan.

And as Affinity provides these dwg/dxf import, it would be fine to have these different forms of patterns as well.

Tobias is on the run for a finished copy on how a finished project should look like.

Kind Regards,

Uwe 

[dominik]

11 hours ago, Uwe-R-aus-B said:

May I ask - anyway - Symbols?

Symbols are elements that can be modified at any time and the modifications transfer to all instances of this symbol.

My thinking is that you not necessarily need pattern layers to fill the elements with hatches. You could as well use a big enough single (vector) element that is being clipped inside the drawing e.g. of a beam.

If your drawings are 600px wide on average then a 1200px wide hatch would always fit inside of it leaving room for resizing. I'll prepare a sample document when I get the time later today or tomorrow.

d.

[Uwe-R-aus-B]

I watched "symbols" and this could really do the job - unless the forms are closed, correct?

This is a pretty good thinking, indeed. Plans or mappings however can have any scale up to A2 to A1 and smaller of course.

We will check this.

I checked it and as of this reading I am not able to transform this into "our" hatchings issue. 

 

Finally, after I was not able to "fill" a closed vector with a symbol - I followed your hint with "closed objects.

So I closed the object, which Tobias also can do while creating/copying the plan he creates himself or he will get from architects or whomever.

So now, closed object -- vector-fill-tool -- choose Bitmap fill:

and there you go - now it looks the same as in the Aff-Ph-tutorial from James and I can scale it up or down and turn it to my likings.

If there's a way to do it with symbols - well, why not.

But so far we got, with your help, a solution. Closed Objects are the way to this solution.

We now only have to be able to create seamless patterns and that's it.

 

Thanks so far and Kind Regards,

Uwe

Edited September 10 by Uwe-R-aus-B

[dominik]

On 9/10/2024 at 7:28 AM, dominik said:

I'll prepare a sample document when I get the time later today or tomorrow.

Hello @Uwe-R-aus-B,

sorry, it took me longer than expected. It was a busy week...

Attached I post a document that was created in AD (even though it has an .apub extension). It demonstrates how to use hatching patterns that are turned into symbols. These are clipped in multiple objects in a sample drawing (taken from your sample file above).

Geometry is edited within the artboards of each hatching pattern. Colours are defined as global document colours and can be edited from the palette called 'hatching colours'.

Hatching objects also can be turned into assets and are still editable (= synced) as they are all part of the same document. Assets make it easier to organize hatching patterns.

d.

testing-hatchings-2.afpub

[Uwe-R-aus-B]

I'll check this and let you know, as soon as I got it. Gorgeous, THX and Grazie,

 

Kind nRegards,

Uwe