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Page numbering - count from 1 in even and odd pages


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Hello again guys! How are you? This time I wanted to tell you about a silly but important problem I have to solve.

I'm trying to insert the page numbering using the master

My document is a coloring book, so it has the following structure
1 [Blank page]
2 [Coloring image 1] >> (I want to have the numbering here: Page 1)
3 [Blank page]
4 [Coloring image 2] >> (I want to have the numbering here: Page 2)
.... And so on until you reach about 100

Structure in image:

image.png.033015eccb3e616ff64028ebf82eb6e6.png

What do I want to do? Number each page where the image is, (and I should ignore the blank pages).

But the problem is that using the master in affinity, when I insert the pagination in the even pages, affinity starts counting all the pages, even the odd ones (in my case the pages that are blank).

Is there any way from affinity to start the count only with the odd pages?

The only solution I found was to do it with a python script, but I'm sure it would be very easy to integrate this in a function directly from affinity.

I should mention that some users on telegram told me they had had this problem and found no solution.

I would like you to help me with some automated solution, I don't want to depend on python to do this, besides it is important for my coloring books to integrate this numbering methodology.

Could please help me?
Thank u very much guys !!

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The solution I'd use is:

  1. Create a manual list of all the page numbers you will ever need for any book. I'd do this in a spreadsheet which would take seconds to create hundreds of page numbers. I've done this for you, here's a file with 1 to 500 in plain text.
    numbers.txt
  2. Select and copy as many numbers as you need.
  3. In your book, add a frame for the page number on the appropriate master page. Apply a paragraph style for the page number.
  4. Go to the first document page that uses this master and paste the copied text into the frame.
  5. Using the Find and Replace panel, replace all the paragraph breaks with page breaks. Click the magnifying glass icon to the left of Find and Replace and choose Special Characters > Paragraph Break for Find and Page Break for Replace. Now you will just see the number 1 in the frame.
  6. AutoFlow the text - hold Shift and click the red Text Flow Out control, the icon that indicates the text frame is overflowing. That will link the frames on all the masters, adding pages if required.

I just tried it using these steps and was able to number just the odd or even pages as you described.

Cheers

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1 hour ago, MikeTO said:

The solution I'd use is:

  1. Create a manual list of all the page numbers you will ever need for any book. I'd do this in a spreadsheet which would take seconds to create hundreds of page numbers. I've done this for you, here's a file with 1 to 500 in plain text.
    numbers.txt
  2. Seleccione y copie tantos números como necesite.
  3. In your book, add a frame for the page number on the appropriate master page. Apply a paragraph style for the page number.
  4. Go to the first document page that uses this master and paste the copied text into the frame.
  5. Using the Find and Replace panel, replace all the paragraph breaks with page breaks. Click the magnifying glass icon to the left of Find and Replace and choose Special Characters > Paragraph Break for Find and Page Break for Replace. Now you will just see the number 1 in the frame.
  6. AutoFlow the text - hold Shift and click the red Text Flow Out control, the icon that indicates the text frame is overflowing. That will link the frames on all the masters, adding pages if required.

I just tried it using these steps and was able to number just the odd or even pages as you described.

Cheers

Thank u very much bro. it looks very complicated or confused for me.  I've tried do it but dont work or sure i stay doing something bad :/ Sorry

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3 hours ago, junklont said:

My document is a coloring book, so it has the following structure
1 [Blank page]
2 [Coloring image 1] >> (I want to have the numbering here: Page 1)
3 [Blank page]
4 [Coloring image 2] >> (I want to have the numbering here: Page 2)
.... And so on until you reach about 100

If only the front of each page is printed (with a blank back), wouldn't it work to create a one-page document containing only the 'coloring pages' and then print that accordingly (without imposition)? This way you could use a single master page with the page numbers as usual and with continuous numbering (1-50).

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21 minutes ago, junklont said:

Thank u very much bro. it looks very complicated or confused for me.  I've tried do it but dont work or sure i stay doing something bad :/ Sorry

Here's a sample document showing how to do it.

test numbers.afpub

Cheers

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20 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

Here's a sample document showing how to do it.

test numbers.afpub

Cheers

Ohhh great, I dont know but now understand hahaha, I need do Shift click for autoflow. Now works!! Thank you very much bro

It seems to me that it is a too complicated solution for a normal people, it is interesting, I have a question, can we report this somehow as a [request for improvement], afinity needs a function to do that without so much complexity.

I think it's almost as hard to do it as in python.

 

23 minutes ago, thomaso said:

If only the front of each page is printed (with a blank back), wouldn't it work to create a one-page document containing only the 'coloring pages' and then print that accordingly (without imposition)? This way you could use a single master page with the page numbers as usual and with continuous numbering (1-50).

Yes, maybe you are right, but the problem is that I am required to deliver it with that format (that structure).

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2 hours ago, bbrother said:

@junklont welcome on the forum.

From the screenshot you attached i see that you're using single pages.

This is how i would number the pages (see video below↓)
I used a bigger text frame only for demonstration to make things more visible.

 

 

Excelent !! Thank u very much, Now is more easy understand the process

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If you want sequential numbers on any odd (or even) page, I would have done so:

  1. Create a text frame where you want the number
  2. Type as many carriage returns (↩) as odd pages you have
  3. Select all (⌘ or ctrl A)
  4. In the Paragraph panel > Bullets and numbering, choose 1,2,3 as List type
  5. In the Paragraph panel > Flow options, choose Begin on the next odd (or even) page
  6. Shift-click on the red arrow to flow the text on new pages. 

Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To

I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue.

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