DanielPPeters Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) Every eps file I import into Affinity Designer 2 looks awful. The graphics are separated into unusual sections and gradients and shadows are changed (misplaced or redrawn) and some graphic elements look as though they have been rasterized (The graphic no longer appears smooth and well drawn.... they look pixelated). Every single eps I've tried to import turns out this way. Is there a setting that needs to be adjusted? Not sure how useful Designer will be if it can't handle eps files. Please help. I've attached and eps and a jpg of the same file to you can see the two and how Designer is treating the eps. Daniel Christmas background blue v kr.eps Edited December 31, 2023 by DanielPPeters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 8 hours ago, DanielPPeters said: Every eps file I import into Affinity Designer 2 looks awful. The graphics are separated into unusual sections and gradients and shadows are changed (misplaced or redrawn) and some graphic elements look as though they have been rasterized (The graphic no longer appears smooth and well drawn.... they look pixelated). Every single eps I've tried to import turns out this way. Is there a setting that needs to be adjusted? Not sure how useful Designer will be if it can't handle eps files. Please help. I've attached and eps and a jpg of the same file to you can see the two and how Designer is treating the eps. Daniel Such eps files typically have an embedded Adobe Illustrator file in them. If so, only AI will open them faithfully as it will open the embedded Illustrator portion of the file. The eps file format itself cannot contain transparency, which the original eps file likely has. Various other applications may open the AI portion with greater success, but none will likely be a 1:1 faithful recreation compared to Adobe Illustrator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 28 minutes ago, MikeW said: Such eps files typically have an embedded Adobe Illustrator file in them. If so, only AI will open them faithfully as it will open the embedded Illustrator portion of the file. I thought the same, but that does not seem to be the case with the EPS file attached in the first post when viewing it with a text editor. Oufti 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: I thought the same, but that does not seem to be the case with the EPS file attached in the first post when viewing it with a text editor. That was a Affinity Designer generated eps file. The result of opening the original in AD and exporting it back to eps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, MikeW said: That was a Affinity Designer generated eps file. The result of opening the original in AD and exporting it back to eps. Good point. If true, we would need the original EPS file. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Good point. If true, we would need the original EPS file. Stock sites generally require the embedded portion for eps files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, MikeW said: Stock sites generally require the embedded portion for eps files. Yes, but the OP didn't say the problem is with EPS files from stock sites. Rather, "Every eps file I import into Affinity Designer 2 looks awful." Though the rest of the descripttion, "The graphics are separated into unusual sections and gradients and shadows are changed (misplaced or redrawn)" does seem like a description of something from a stock site. You're probably right, but it would be nice to have an original to show the problem, not something created by Affinity applications. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: Yes, but the OP didn't say the problem is with EPS files from stock sites. Rather, "Every eps file I import into Affinity Designer 2 looks awful." Though the rest of the descripttion, "The graphics are separated into unusual sections and gradients and shadows are changed (misplaced or redrawn)" does seem like a description of something from a stock site. You're probably right, but it would be nice to have an original to show the problem, not something created by Affinity applications. https://stock.adobe.com/images/christmas-blue-background/57437645?prev_url=detail Shutterstock, etc., also list it. Even places where similar eps files are located, if there is evident transparency, those eps files are either merely containers having an embedded jpeg or embedded AI file. Just the way it is. So if the file came from Adobe or another pay-site, it is a commercial product and shouldn't be freely shared. However, if you search the forum, there are samples here where people have uploaded such files that fail in Affinity (and other) applications that open faithfully in AI. btw, I used Tineye for a reverse image search on the OP's jpeg upload to find sources. Adobe was just the first hit. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielPPeters Posted December 31, 2023 Author Share Posted December 31, 2023 Hello gentlemen Thank you so much for engaging in this discussion. I'm going to share the original eps file downloaded from the website Depositphotos.com. PLEASE DO NOT SHARE or use this image as it is against my licensing agreement to share it freely. I'm hoping it will be acceptable for the purposes of this investigation. Less complex images, like QR codes downloaded from legitimate sites show no degradation in quality. The more complex the images (number of elements and layers etc...) the more distorted the images seem. MikeW... you also mentioned that other applications could open AI portions of the file more faithfully. Could you list a few? I cancelled my subscription to Adobe and moved to Affinity because of the cost. I really don't want to go back to Adobe if I don't have to. Also, has anyone heard from the Affinity staff in regards to this issue? Thanks again. Christmas background blue v kr.eps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 19 minutes ago, DanielPPeters said: .. MikeW... you also mentioned that other applications could open AI portions of the file more faithfully. Could you list a few? I cancelled my subscription to Adobe and moved to Affinity because of the cost. I really don't want to go back to Adobe if I don't have to. Also, has anyone heard from the Affinity staff in regards to this issue? You should remove that eps file. This is a public site. I've uploaded a free vector that illustrates the issue. abstract_background_268729.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted December 31, 2023 Share Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, DanielPPeters said: Also, has anyone heard from the Affinity staff in regards to this issue? If Mike is right about the cause (which he probably is), there's nothing more for the staff to say than they have elsewhere. True EPS files can be handled by the Affinity applications. Those files are not really EPS fights, but a composite of an EPS container (which is documented and understood by Affinity) which holds a .ai file (a proprietary undocumented format that Affinity does not understand). The stock sites should not say they are providing EPS files, but rather that they are providing Adobe Illustrator files which are not guaranteed to work for anyone but Adobe Illustrator users. Old Bruce and Hangman 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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