Affinity Publisher Resource Manager

[Bob Nakashian]

In the Resource Manager the ‘Type’ column at the far right identifies they type of image file. However, please note that the actual image file, as can be seen in the attached screen shot by the 'name' of these files on the left column, is not always the same. Tiff files in the right column are listed for these jpg files. It doesn’t always happen. Pdf files seem to be always correctly identified, some jpgs are identified as jpgs, and tiffs as tiffs. Is there something amiss or am I missing something? Thank you. 

[Dan C]

Hi @Bob Nakashian,

Thanks for your report!

I've tested this here with multiple .JPEG files and I'm not seeing the same issue currently - can you please attach a .ZIP folder of the JPEG images shown in your screenshot, so I can test this further here?

Many thanks in advance

[Bob Nakashian]

On 11/15/2023 at 7:15 AM, Dan C said:

Hi @Bob Nakashian,

Thanks for your report!

I've tested this here with multiple .JPEG files and I'm not seeing the same issue currently - can you please attach a .ZIP folder of the JPEG images shown in your screenshot, so I can test this further here?

Many thanks in advance

Dan,

Sorry for the delay. I was away from my computer.

Please find attached a collection the files in the screen shot. Note that I have also attached a New Screen Shot file with the associated zipped images. Your help is appreciated.   

Nakashian44.zip

[Bob Nakashian]

On 11/15/2023 at 7:15 AM, Dan C said:

Hi @Bob Nakashian,

Thanks for your report!

I've tested this here with multiple .JPEG files and I'm not seeing the same issue currently - can you please attach a .ZIP folder of the JPEG images shown in your screenshot, so I can test this further here?

Many thanks in advance

 

3 minutes ago, Bob Nakashian said:

Dan,

Sorry for the delay. I was away from my computer.

Please find attached a collection the files in the screen shot. Note that I have also attached a New Screen Shot file with the associated zipped images. Your help is appreciated.   

Nakashian44.zip 36.64 MB · 0 downloads

I just saw your note about you're being away from the office. Hope the time away was good. When you get back is fine. Thank you.

[GarryP]

It’s possible to rename a JPG file as a TIFF file (e.g. filename.jpg → filename.tiff) and still be able to open/place the file (sometimes with a warning).

I’ve not been to do the same thing the other way round though (Error: File type is not supported), which is what I thought might have happened.

I extracted your images from the ZIP and used Publisher to Place them (linked, or embedded, tried both) into a brand new document and they all show up in the Resource Manager as JPEGs in the Type column – see attached image.

I’m not sure what to try next.

[Bob Nakashian]

Thank you, Garry, for your careful expamination.

I understand your point about just changing file names. But the jpg files were all files created from tiff files and "saved as" in Photoshop to reduce their size. I don't recall any warnings or error messages. In some cases the files had a low dpi not desired for export so I used Topaz Gigapixel AI to increase the dpi without much pixelation.

I don't know that the misidentification in the current linked configuration will affect anything beyond a double take from me. 

Originally I sought out the tiff files in resource manager 'types' to see if there were any tiff files that I missed as the files are scatter in a variety of folders in my computer. If any were discovered I located the files in explorer and converted them to jpgs, and then replaced them in the Affinity Publisher file. I wonder if that effort was for naught. I don't know if the file type or size of an image that is linked will affect the Affinity Publisher file size (like it does if the files are embedded). My concern was ultimately to create quality pdf files that were as small as I could.    

[GarryP]

I don’t use Photoshop so I don’t know what “saved as” should do, so maybe the problem is with that somehow?

I don’t use Topaz Gigapixel AI and don’t know what it does, so maybe the problem is with that somehow?

You mentioned “converted them to jpgs” but don’t say how, so maybe the problem is with that somehow?

You seem to have an unusual workflow in getting your images from the originals into Publisher – TIFF → Photoshop → Topaz → Conversion → ??? → Publisher – so it might be best to check them at each stage to make sure that they are correct at each stage before going on to the next stage.

That might help you to figure out where the problem is coming from.

Or, in some cases, you could just place the TIFFs directly into Publisher, if they don’t need any further work, and use the export settings in Publisher to try and reduce the size of the resultant export.

[Dan C]

Thanks for providing these for me! I'm seeing the same behaviour as Garry when placing these JPEG files directly into a new file - however I suspect the incorrect 'Type' may be occurring due to your PS conversion workflow.

Just to confirm, are these the steps you're taking?

1. Place the .TIFF file, Linked, within the .afpub file
2. Open the .TIFF file in PS
3. File > Save As > JPEG
   (unsure of the exact JPEG export settings used, though this likely shouldn't affect the workflow)
   This creates a new JPEG file, alongside the original .TIFF file
4. In Publisher, select the Linked .TIFF file (in the Resource Manager, or directly on canvas?) and Replace with the newly saved .JPEG file
5. The file is updated to use the smaller JPEG file, though the Resource Manager retains 'TIFF' as the 'Type'

Is this correct, or have I missed/misunderstood part of your workflow please?

[Bob Nakashian]

Thank you, Dan.

Your outline is essentially correct. However, the results were different. The ‘type’ was not always incorrect for the adjusted images. I’m concluding this may be unimportant. You may already expect the results of two small tests I performed below but I wasn’t sure what they would be.   

I tried saving jpeg images from tiffs in both Photoshop CS5 and Affinity Photo V2 at their highest quality. There may be other factors to consider about the jpgs, but the resulting file sizes were identical.  

Then I created two twin Affinity Publisher files, one with linked large tiff images and another with linked small jpg images. The saved Affinity Publisher files were identical in size and the exported pdf files were almost the same file size (only a couple of kilobytes different).

Another something that may or may not have effected any of this. The Affinity Publisher file in question was originally created with InDesign CS5. I exported that file from InDesign into an IDML file and then imported it into Affinity Publisher. All images were the same as they were in the original.

Thanks again for your guidance.

Bob

 

[Dan C]

No problem at all, thanks for confirming that for me!

I have tested this workflow here, using TIFF files converted to JPEG in Photoshop - as well as an imported IDML document containing both JPEG & TIFF linked image files and the Resource Manager within Affinity Publisher continues to report the correct 'Type' of image in all instances, so this may be more specific to your document itself.

Therefore can you please upload a copy of your .afpub file, and a copy of the originally imported .IDML file (if this is still available to you) to the following link for me?

https://www.dropbox.com/request/d07kfVHtWqeHrqh5QSnf

Once uploaded, please reply here to let me know.

Many thanks once again 

[Bob Nakashian]

4 hours ago, Dan C said:

No problem at all, thanks for confirming that for me!

I have tested this workflow here, using TIFF files converted to JPEG in Photoshop - as well as an imported IDML document containing both JPEG & TIFF linked image files and the Resource Manager within Affinity Publisher continues to report the correct 'Type' of image in all instances, so this may be more specific to your document itself.

Therefore can you please upload a copy of your .afpub file, and a copy of the originally imported .IDML file (if this is still available to you) to the following link for me?

https://www.dropbox.com/request/d07kfVHtWqeHrqh5QSnf

Once uploaded, please reply here to let me know.

Many thanks once again 

 

4 hours ago, Dan C said:

No problem at all, thanks for confirming that for me!

I have tested this workflow here, using TIFF files converted to JPEG in Photoshop - as well as an imported IDML document containing both JPEG & TIFF linked image files and the Resource Manager within Affinity Publisher continues to report the correct 'Type' of image in all instances, so this may be more specific to your document itself.

Therefore can you please upload a copy of your .afpub file, and a copy of the originally imported .IDML file (if this is still available to you) to the following link for me?

https://www.dropbox.com/request/d07kfVHtWqeHrqh5QSnf

Once uploaded, please reply here to let me know.

Many thanks once again 

Dan,

I've uploaded the files you requested. I'm sure I must have worked on the Affinity Publisher file after the IDML file was imported into an empty file. Please let me know if you need anything else from me. 

Bob

[Dan C]

Many thanks for providing that for me! I'm seeing Publisher detect these imported JPEGs as TIFF files incorrectly when importing your IDML document - so I'm logging this as a bug with our developers now.

The 'Type' shown in the resource manager will not affect your exported document, so you should be fine to continue to edit/export this file as required - though I do understand it can be important for the correct Type to be shown when trying to eliminate any unwanted files from your document etc, so hopefully this will be resolved in a future update.

I hope this helps

[Bob Nakashian]

On 11/29/2023 at 11:48 AM, Dan C said:

Many thanks for providing that for me! I'm seeing Publisher detect these imported JPEGs as TIFF files incorrectly when importing your IDML document - so I'm logging this as a bug with our developers now.

The 'Type' shown in the resource manager will not affect your exported document, so you should be fine to continue to edit/export this file as required - though I do understand it can be important for the correct Type to be shown when trying to eliminate any unwanted files from your document etc, so hopefully this will be resolved in a future update.

I hope this helps

 

On 11/29/2023 at 11:48 AM, Dan C said:

Many thanks for providing that for me! I'm seeing Publisher detect these imported JPEGs as TIFF files incorrectly when importing your IDML document - so I'm logging this as a bug with our developers now.

The 'Type' shown in the resource manager will not affect your exported document, so you should be fine to continue to edit/export this file as required - though I do understand it can be important for the correct Type to be shown when trying to eliminate any unwanted files from your document etc, so hopefully this will be resolved in a future update.

I hope this helps

Thank you very much, Dan, for tracking this down and reporting the issue. Your thoroughness is most admirable. I hope your efforts are appreciated by the greater Affinity team. It is much appreciated by me. 

[Dan C]

No problem at all - many thanks for your kind feedback