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Ok, this has been annoying me for a whole week and I have gone through the menus a dozen times. the preferences, sought out the help and now I have to post!  Question:  Sometimes my stuff is falling outside the page, into the black area.  I drag a huge 10 mile square selection box to grab whatever might be there, but it is Never ever selected, I lose it completely and I have to reverse the history and redo whatever moment I need to.  I know there is a setting somewhere, where one sees everything that is outside the page.  But in good old affinity fashion, this option is not where it is supposed to be.  Where is it please?

Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed.

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1 minute ago, Chris26 said:

Ok, this has been annoying me for a whole week and I have gone through the menus a dozen times. the preferences, sought out the help and now I have to post!  Question:  Sometimes my stuff is falling outside the page, into the black area.  I drag a huge 10 mile square selection box to grab whatever might be there, but it is Never ever selected, I lose it completely and I have to reverse the history and redo whatever moment I need to.  I know there is a setting somewhere, where one sees everything that is outside the page.  But in good old affinity fashion, this option is not where it is supposed to be.  Where is it please?

Hi, just turn off View > View Mode > Clip to Canvas and you'll find your errant objects.

Cheers

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Ok that's odd, I had clip to canvas off, for months.  I did go to this but still my stuff went magically missing.  Nevermind, thank you both.  I moved images outside and they now show.  But they have not been showing for days now.  mostly when I place an image, use the manual mm size dialogue box to set dimensions, then they dissappear off the page into spock's universe.  That's ok.  This is not a great disaster.

Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed.

Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener.  Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.

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22 minutes ago, Chris26 said:

Ok that's odd

Perhaps you hit the shortcut for Clip to Canvas by accident?

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19 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Perhaps you hit the shortcut for Clip to Canvas by accident?

Hi Walt, no I am not a shorcut man, except in a car!  I never use shortcuts to be honest.  No, what is hppening here is simple, I place an image, resize it, it falls off the page and unless I select that image box straight away before doing anything else (the image can not be seen at all), it is lost into space, unless of course I go to Resources and ask to locate.  Then the frame apears but not the image inside.  Anyway this is all fine really, it was only a pain while I was inserting 60 or more images into a document.  Have a nice day Walt.

Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed.

Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener.  Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.

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43 minutes ago, Chris26 said:

no I am not a shorcut man, (…)  I never use shortcuts to be honest.

But you are typing 😉 … As Walt said: "by accident", it is sufficient to press a shortcut (e.g. the \-key) to use/apply the shortcut* … as it is enough to press any digit-key to alter the layer opacity of currently selected layer(s). 

*only unless you have currently a text frame selected with a text tool

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On 8/17/2023 at 12:30 PM, thomaso said:

But you are typing 😉 … As Walt said: "by accident", it is sufficient to press a shortcut (e.g. the \-key) to use/apply the shortcut* … as it is enough to press any digit-key to alter the layer opacity of currently selected layer(s). 

*only unless you have currently a text frame selected with a text tool

Hi Thomaso, I agree with you in principle but that backstroke key is way off to the right on ,y keyboard next to the number 7, I never go there.  Besides the image dissappearing only happens when I place and then reduce in size via the measurement panel and that is all.  So nothing accidently pressed I am sorry to say.

Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed.

Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener.  Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.

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2 hours ago, Chris26 said:

the image dissappearing only happens when I place and then reduce in size via the measurement panel and that is all.

To me it is still not clear in this thread whether …

a)  The visibility problem is caused & gets solved just by the "Clip to Canvas" setting only, or
b)  You are talking about an unexpected horizontal offset position of objects (regardless of their visibility), or
c)  Your problem occurs only as a combination of the two, but never as either alone.

Means, if you notice an object got moved into the pasteboard AND got invisible: Are you then still able to see an object that you move manually / on purpose into the pasteboard so its bounding box does not touch the page – or is then every object in the pasteboard invisible, regardless how it got there?

On 8/16/2023 at 4:39 PM, Chris26 said:

I drag a huge 10 mile square selection box to grab whatever might be there, but it is Never ever selected

On 8/17/2023 at 1:35 PM, Chris26 said:

No, what is hppening here is simple, I place an image, resize it, it falls off the page and unless I select that image box straight away before doing anything else (the image can not be seen at all), it is lost into space, unless of course I go to Resources and ask to locate. 

From your description it sounds that values got entered in the Transform panel that makes the object edges move off the page, maybe supported by an according anchor point activated – but on the other hand I would assume you are aware what values and anchor setting will move an object off the page / into the pasteboard.

So a screencast might make the/a culprit for the issue more obvious. Can you use the document history and make a screen recording of the entire Affinity window(s) when this happens text time?

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On 8/18/2023 at 4:44 PM, thomaso said:

To me it is still not clear in this thread whether …

 

Hallo Thomaso, really it is all fine, I can work with it.  Otherwise it becomes yet another problem for me to invest time and stress in trying to solve, it really is not that serious and not an everyday event.  A little kink here and there, a little rattle is fine, I would rather concentrate on those tyre blow-outs that prevent me going forward. Thank you for your interest though.

Microsoft - Like entering your home and opening the stainless steel kitchen door, with a Popup: 'Do you really want to open this door'? Then looking for the dishwasher and finding it stored in the living room where you have to download a water supply from the app store, then you have to buy microsoft compliant soap, remove the carpet only to be told that it is glued to the floor.. Don't forget to make multiple copies of your front door key and post them to all who demand access to all the doors inside your home including the windows and outside shed.

Apple - Like entering your home and opening the oak framed Kitchen door and finding the dishwasher right in front you ready to be switched on, soap supplied, and water that comes through a water softener.  Ah the front door key is yours and it only needs to open the front door.

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