MaxineD Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Please can you help - feeling chuffed that I've created and updated and adapted my index, but for some reason, it's stuck a gap in the middle of a couple of entries that I can't get rid of... Tried everything I can think of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Welcome to the forums @MaxineD It’s difficult to tell, from your example screen-grab, where all of the blue lines are from. Can you give us a full-screen screenshot, which includes your Layers Panel with the ‘problem layer’ selected, so we have a better idea of how your page looks? It’s easier for us to see what the problem is when we can see everything that you can see rather than just a small part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 It might also help to have Text > Show Special Characters enabled for the screenshot. GarryP 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 20, 2023 Author Share Posted July 20, 2023 the index columns (text boxes) are across 5 pages - it worked great, but in two places a gap appeared for no apparent reason. I deleted the whole thing and then updated, but the gaps are still there. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Possibly the Flow Options will help, for instance … Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 I can move one line that way, but the rest just stay separated. Didn't have the problem until I changed the gutter size - might that have made a difference? Both Index Entry 1 and 2 styles have keep with next 0 lines - but why is it only in a couple of places that there's an issue, I wonder?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 On page 172 there is a special character § the first one in a text frame: It is usually the "End of Story" character and appears at the end of all linked text frames only, not at the beginning, nor anywhere between of a text flow. (compare the frame above ... "Index § ") Can you upload the file for a closer look, or maybe these index pages only? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Had a fiddle, but can't see how to get rid of end-of-story character, and it's gone somewhere else now anyway... I deleted index and re-inserted, and now have just one gap towards the end... Not that keen on sending the whole file - how would I just sent those pages? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 and your suggestion about that end-of-story mark may have worked! Added para space after, and it all wriggled back into place... Fingers crossed it'll behave now. Thank you! thomaso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 10 hours ago, MaxineD said: I deleted index and re-inserted, and now have just one gap towards the end... Strange. As if the creation or update of the index would insert special characters (or include them when indexing from an index topic?). 7 hours ago, MaxineD said: and your suggestion about that end-of-story mark may have worked! Added para space after, and it all wriggled back into place. Glad you solved it! – Whereas I am curios how exactly: I don't understand your "para space after" note. Where did you add this (not in the index style, right)? And why should it remove an erroneously End-Of-Text character? 10 hours ago, MaxineD said: Not that keen on sending the whole file - how would I just sent those pages? You could copy the first of the linked index Text Frames and paste it into a new document. It will include all text of the linked frames. Then a shift-click on the text overflow triangle icon should create the required number of frames to display all containing text. The layout doesn't matter, it is just to look for unwanted special characters. Apart from that it might be interesting for the developers to investigate your entire document to detect the culprit causing the End-Of-Text glyphs. If wanted you could ask in a separate post for an upload link. If a moderator comes to this thread in their reading workflow they will response to your request. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 Paragraph space - it showed up in the last screenshot thanks again... I'll leave it for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufti Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 11 hours ago, thomaso said: I don't understand your "para space after" note. Where did you add this (…) And why should it remove an erroneously End-Of-Text character? Perhaps not remove but "neutralize"? I think at something like what happens when you add a tab before a soft return (line break) in a justified paragraph (so restoring a normal spacing in the line, "neutralizing" the line feed character without removing it): I wonder if it is not the same that happens here but vertically… I mean, maybe there's something in the index styles that requires "stretching the text" to the full height of the column (or something like that), so adding empty paragraphs does the trick for a while, but might not be the ultimate solution. (Well, at first I don't know if this is the problem… Just a wondering…) Quote Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Oufti said: 10 hours ago, thomaso said: I don't understand your "para space after" note. Where did you add this (…) And why should it remove an erroneously End-Of-Text character? Perhaps not remove but "neutralize"? It was a misunderstanding of terms (or my limited English). To me a "para space after" is no character, glyphe or key but a para style > leading option: … while the ¶ is rather a "para break" or "return key". However, the problem seems to have been solved. – With only the screenshots as partial information about the entire index and its setup, further ideas are more speculative guesses for me. Oufti 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxineD Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 I think I've discovered the problem... the text frame had 'centre vertically' selected. So the last column was obeying that instruction. Oufti and GarryP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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